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Re: Bug#934872: RM: ocaml-usb/1.3.0-4 ocaml-sqlexpr/0.5.5-3 zeroinstall-injector/2.12.3-2 obus/1.1.5-6



On Wed, 21 Aug 2019 at 18:32, Stéphane Glondu <glondu@debian.org> wrote:
>
> Le 21/08/2019 à 18:26, Thomas Leonard a écrit :
> >> Please remove the following packages from testing:
[...]
> >>  * zeroinstall-injector, affected by #934340
> >>  * obus, affected by #933992
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm the maintainer of zeroinstall-injector and I just got notified
> > that it was removed and found this issue. I believe that this removal
> > was done in error.
> >
> > As I explained in
> > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=934340, there is no
> > need to remove obus, which has made a new release without a camlp4
> > dependency (and also, camlp4 itself is now compatible with the new
> > OCaml and therefore does not need to be removed).
>
> It might be compatible, but is still deprecated upstream. Its future is
> unclear. Nobody volunteered to maintain it.

I don't believe that's the case. From
https://discuss.ocaml.org/t/the-end-of-camlp4/4216 (where someone with
your name is commenting, so I thought you had seen it):

On 7th Aug, diml wrote:

> We feel like the time has come to officially abandon Camlp4. In order to help
> distributions and other package managers deal with this fact, we will soon
> release a 4.08 compatible version of Camlp4. This will in particular help
> getting OCaml 4.08 in Debian. [...]
> Of course, anyone interested in taking over the project is very welcome to do
> so. Please get in touch if you are interested and we will happily arrange for
> the transfer of ownership.

Two days later, ivg replied saying:

> I will step in, if nobody will volunteer.

and later:

> So just to close this discussion, I will take the burden to keep camlp4 alive
> for 2 or more next releases.

So I think it has a maintainer now, unless something happened since then.

[...]
> >> They prevent 62 other packages from migrating to testing. They are
> >> already marked for autoremoval, but too far in the future.
> >
> > It was only marked for autoremoval due to this exact issue. Surely the
> > purpose of the time delay is to let these things be fixed properly?
>
> So your suggestion was to freeze activity until the packages were
> automatically removed from testing?

My suggestion is to update camlp4 in Debian, which would avoid the
problem, or wait for the NEW queue to drain, so that obus can be
updated.

> I firmly believe that accelerating
> the removal from testing was legitimate here. Your package can migrate
> back to testing later.
>
> > https://wiki.debian.org/ftpmaster_Removals seems to indicate that a
> > maintainer should be given several weeks notice before their package
> > is removed.
>
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=934340#17 was posted 8
> days before the removal and got not reply, so I thought you were OK with
> this.

Unfortunately, gmail sent that message to spam (weirdly, as I'd
already replied to your previous email in the same conversation).

> Again, this removal from testing is not a definitive removal from Debian
> and may be just temporary. I didn't mean to be hostile.

Do you have an idea of when this will be? I should be able to look at
a workaround this weekend if it's not back by then.


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