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Re: Proposed new requirements for emacsen add-on packages



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Stephane Crivisier


On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 2:43 AM, Rob Browning <rlb@defaultvalue.org> wrote:


Recently I've been fixing some non-trivial problems I introduced in
emacsen-common 2.0.0 -- and to finish fixing them it looks like it may
be best to change (and augment) some of the add-on package requirements.

Originally, I'd really tried to make it so that as of emacsen-common
2.*, add-on packages didn't have to depend on *anything*, but that's
proving difficult to unworkable, so I'm leaning toward adding a
requirement that add-on packages depend on "emacsen-common >= 2.0.8".

If it helps, emacsen-common is only about 140k installed.

Here's what I have so far from the hypothetical 2.0.8 changelog:

Require add-on packages to depend on emacsen-common >= 2.0.8.

This should be simpler and safer, and emacsen-common is only ~140k,
which shouldn't be too big a burden. One specific problem this solves
is the handling of /var/lib/emacsen-common -- in particular
/var/lib/emacsen-common/state/package/installed/* if/when
emacsen-common is purged. Without the dependency, emacsen-common
can't remove the tree without clobbering the state for every add-on,
but if emacsen-common can't remove it, who can?

It seems better to add this requirement for now (which should also
simplify the emacsen infrastructure in general), than to have every
add-on try to decide when it's safe to remove
/var/lib/emacsen-common/state/package (i.e. when they're the last
add-on being removed from the system).

This release changes the following requirements for add-on packages
(see debian-emacs-policy for the details):

- They must now depend on emacsen-common >= 2.0.8.
- They don't need to conflict with emacsen-common anymore.
- They don't need to guard their calls to emacs-install-package.
- They don't need to guard their calls to emacs-remove-package.
- They should no longer manage their package/installed/ file directly.

In addition emacsen flavor packages should now depend on
emacsen-common >= 2.0.8.

Thoughts? Strong objections?

(And for whatever it's worth, I've been posting some relevant bits to
debian-emacsen@lists.debian.org lately, but I imagined that many/most
of you aren't subscribed.)

Thanks
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Rob Browning
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