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Bug#500959: Caml-core is bloated



On Fri, Oct 03, 2008 at 06:44:24PM +0200, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote:
> >> This package is called ocaml-core, and hence I expected it to install
> >> a reasonably complete O'Caml environment.
> > That's the purpose, yes.

Fine, not that "complete" as an adjective is kind of far from
"minimal".

> This is caml-core, the /core/ Caml package.  The one that contains all
> the tools that you believe the average Caml developer cannot live
> without, not everything you feel is useful for Caml development.

Looks like you are deciding the actual meaning of that package :-),
rather than filing a bug. In fact, while I agree that the current
short description can be somehow misleading (as it use the term
"core", which can be interpreted as "minimal"), the long description
is quite accurate and makes clear that you are not getting a "minimal"
OCaml programming environment. It also explicitly mention that you are
going to get a RAD tool ...

> Let me explain.  I'm currently building a Debian Live-CD for our
> first-year students.  I want the Live-CD to be usable for Caml

OK, then I don't get exactly what's your problem, actually I don't get
why you are relying on ocaml-core. The idea of ocaml-core is that of
being a meta-package so that users new to OCaml can just "apt-get
install ocaml-core" and get some tools to look at. Your use case it is
definitely not that one. You are creating a Live-CD, you should make
the software selection yourself!, not relying on someone else who
selected the software for you (that would be me).


Still, thanks for your suggestions, I'll adopt most of them in future
releases of ocaml-core, mainly because:

1) now we have Recommends installed by default, which give some extra
   flexibility wrt when I initially created ocaml-{core,libs}

2) some of the original choices are now less meaningful, mainly due to
   good evolution of standard OCaml tools

Anyhow, all this won't be for Lenny.

Cheers.

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