Hi Paul,
Quoting Paul Gevers (2020-12-21 22:49:18)
> [Release Team member watching]
Nice :-)
> On Thu, 08 Aug 2019 17:37:35 +0200 Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> wrote:
> > Source: crystalhd
> > Version: 1:0.0~git20110715.fdd2f19-1
> > Severity: grave
> > Justification: renders package unusable
> >
> > It seems that libcrystalhd3 is only really useful together with
> > firmware-crystalhd, which was never really usable in Debian, leading
> > to that package being dropped: https://bugs.debian.org/865978
> >
> > If someone wants to revive CrystalHD in Debian, it seems a good
> > place to start is
> > https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Broadcom_Crystal_HD#Feb._2014_Update
>
> Can you elaborate a bit? The package has a huge popcon (hence it's not
> autoremoved). You're saying that all those people had it installed in
> vain? Or is that due to a (past) library dependency and didn't it
> actually add anything?
Both:
a) It never really worked (see bug#865978), and
b) libavcodec* linked with it in Buster, and
c) I guess because apt-mark is not really used
(few use aptitude which invented the concept,
and even debian-installer fails to provide an ideal baseline -
see bug#742977)
most previously affected users continue to have it installed
after ffmpeg 7:4.1.4-1 stopped linking with it
(see bug#917292).
> elbrus@coccia:~$ dak rm --no-action -R --suite testing crystalhd
> Will remove the following packages from testing:
>
> crystalhd | 1:0.0~git20110715.fdd2f19-13 | source
> gstreamer1.0-crystalhd | 1:0.0~git20110715.fdd2f19-13 | amd64, i386
> libcrystalhd-dev | 1:0.0~git20110715.fdd2f19-13 | amd64, i386
> libcrystalhd3 | 1:0.0~git20110715.fdd2f19-13 | amd64, i386
>
> Maintainer: Debian Multimedia Maintainers
> <debian-multimedia@lists.debian.org>
>
> ------------------- Reason -------------------
>
> ----------------------------------------------
>
> Checking reverse dependencies...
> # Broken Depends:
> kylin-video: kylin-video [amd64 i386]
>
> # Broken Build-Depends:
> kylin-video: libcrystalhd-dev
>
> Dependency problem found.
Yes, there are still packages depending on it: Someone needs to work
actively with those still believing the library is more than snakeoil -
because our mechanisms auto-pressuring packages to to stay alert and in
line or else get kicked from testing works only on edge packages -
packages "well connected" in Debian are not affected.
(while the allegory is funny, I really don't mean to imply that the
mechanisms were _intented_ to treat packages unequally, only that in
effect it does)
- Jonas
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