Dear Mats, Fabio, and MIA Team, Mats, would you please skip the "Hi Mats," section below? MIA Team, It sounds like Mats probably intends to retire, but this conclusion isn't beyond reasonable doubt--so this Maintainer's packages are in a limbo state. TLDR; David Kalnischkies recommended contacting your team 2022-03-17, and Mats has not yet followed up on the debian-mentors thread. Given that it's almost been a month without follow-up, I feel that opening a ticket is justified, pending clarification. Maybe you will interpret the record differently and understand that Mats expresses a more strong intent to leave than I understood? "Fabio A. De Muzio Tobich" <ftobich@debian.org> writes: > Em 17/03/2022 17:19, Mats Erik Andersson escreveu: >> Torsdag den 17 mars 2022, klockan 15:22, skrev Nicholas D Steeves detta: >>> >>> From a thread on debian-mentors, >>> >>> vimer <tsu.yubo@gmail.com> writes: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 05:23:16AM -0700, deb251@lewenberg.com wrote: >>>>> The Debian package "rush" has not been updated since 2017. The >>>>> upstream software is actively maintained and has advanced from the 1.x >>>>> version in Debian to version 2.x (the latest version is 2.2 released >>>>> Jan 2022). I filed a bug in Dec 2021 to have the upstream changes >>>>> packaged, but no response from the package maintainer was forthcoming. >>>>> >>>>> Is there someone who can take over the maintenance of this package? [snip] >>> >>> Given the OP asked for "someone who can take over the maintenance of >>> this package", and given the state of the package, salvaging "rush" >>> would be more appropriate: >>> [snip] >>> Anyone interested in pursuing the process may follow the Developers >>> Reference section "How to salvage a package"; Please note that the >>> maintainer also has rights, so one must wait 21 days after filing the >>> ITS before proceeding with the salvage operation. >>> [snip] >> >> The truth is that I am in no position to verify my identity >> to the Debian project, ever since the time it began demanding >> three signatures of trust. So even if I desired to commence >> an up-to-date packaging effort, there is no sensible means >> for me to achieve that endeavour. Therefore I hereby annonce >> my desire for another responsible and devoted person to take >> over maintenance of "gnurush". This is a piece of software >> that deserves continued use under diligent maintainership. >> I did try my best during a period in time, but now I leave! >> >> Best regards, >> Mats Erik Andersson, dr sci math >> Hi Mats, As David Kalnischkies noted, identity verification is not required for sponsored uploads, but only for the "Debian Maintainer" (uploading rights granted for a select list of packages) role. Given that your retirement is predicated on "there is no sensible means for me to achieve [identity verification]", and identity verification is not in fact required, the conclusion does not follow from the premise, resulting in an ambiguous state. Are you interested in continuing to maintain your packages, or would you like to Orphan all of them, or would you like to orphan only a subset of them? I noticed that you maintain more than a few packages :-) Thank you for your work! If it would be too much of a hassle to file Orphan bugs for all of your packages then would you please reply to at least mia@qa.debian.org ? I've added them to CC for your convenience, as well as to tentatively initiate the investigation process. Let them know that you're retiring from Debian, if that's what you intent to do. I feel like that's probably what you intend, but Debian has extensive formal processes in place to prevent people from hijacking the work of others, and this is one of those processes. That said, I always hope that Maintainers will resume contributions! > Greetings, > Hi Fabio! > Since Mats has expressed his desire to pass the package on to a > new maintainer, I'm guessing it's not necessary to go through > the salvage process. Therefore an ITS would be unnecessary and > one could adopt the package directly. > > Maybe orphan the package, then open an ITA. > I've initiated the MIA process; although, I hope that Mats didn't actually intent to retire. > So I ask, is there anyone working on this package? > Well, no one filed an ITS, which is too bad because the 21 day wait would have expired by now. > If not, I believe I can adopt it. > That's great news! :-) As I interpreted the discussion, lots of people would like to see GNU Rush updated, but no one wanted to maintain it long-term. Kind regards, Nicholas
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