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Bug#846259: RFS: Juliar/0.0-12 [put in ITP, ITA, RC, NMU if applicable] -- New Programming Language

On 29/11/16 17:50, Juliar Team wrote:

1) Juliar does compile and work on Debian. There is even an unofficial Debian package at apt.juliar.org


That's a good start.



2) Although the project is fairly young it is stable for the items it has. Everything is tested everyday. Also automated tests are run to make sure that Juliar runs and works.


stable != tested

http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/180883/what-does-stable-mean-in-the-context-of-debian-stable



3) The reason for having a new repository made to the public is that there are a few applications that will be dependent on Juliar. There is also a petition that I can send you where people want Juliar to see Juliar as part of an OS on Linux. The software is more towards Kali linux as most of the Juliar community is IT guys that want to build applications in Juliar and run them on Windows, Linux, and Macintosh without changing code.
I am confused here, "apt.juliar.org" is public right? Anyone can manually add this repository to his APT source and install juliar.
With a separate "apt.juliar.org", you have more flexibility for updates regardless of the state of the Debian archive. As of today, by pushing "juliar" to the archive **now**, users will be stuck with this particular alpha version for the support window of the next stable release of Debian, i.e. from early 2017 until roughly 2 years after. 

Are you guys fine with that?

I just wanted to make sure this was clear and understood.



4) sorry for not closing bug with ITP
That fact that you did not know about the normal sponsorship process makes me wonder whether you read this [1]. Please consider reading it if you have not. 

https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMentorsFaq
You might want to first file an ITP explaining the reason for the inclusion of "juliar" to Debian and who is expected to maintain it. 



5) The name came historically (way before I found out about Julia and R). It came from the name Julia Roberts.
The name hasn't changed since most people are used to that name and a lot of work has been put into it.


Alright.



On Nov 29, 2016, at 12:10 PM, Ghislain Vaillant <ghisvail@gmail.com> wrote:

Just a few comments:


On 29/11/16 16:44, Juliar Programming wrote:
Package: sponsorship-requests
 Severity: normal [important for RC bugs, wishlist for new packages]


Juliar is not in Debian yet, is it?


 Dear mentors,

 I am looking for a sponsor for my package "Juliar":

* Package name    : Juliar
  Version         : 0.0-12
  Upstream Author : Andrey Makhanov <andreim@juliar.org <mailto:andreim@juliar.org>>
* URL             : https://www.juliar.org
* License         : GNU v3
  Section         : 1

 It builds those binary packages:

   Juliar - a new Universal programming language that is cross-platform.

It is a functional OOP programming language with an object structure similar to linux with ability to move between object of objects via ".." i.e.

Juliar/object/../dir

 It can be used for web-development, as a desktop application, and as console application. It can run in browser (client-side) as well.

The application has a good Network library and has a concept of "universal" modules which allows one to create a module for example in Python, Ruby, Fortran, or C and then import it into Juliar.

The Programming Language is fairly new and is currently up to Alpha 12.


Do we need such a young alpha release of a project (the project is just over a year old based on the GitHub graph), to be packaged in Debian? Perhaps in experimental, but I am skeptical in releasing this is into unstable.


Although the application has been packaged before into a private apt repo. It would be great to make it available to the public.


What would a release in Debian bring in addition to the private apt repository. Why not just making your private repository public and provide the software to your community that way? Please be explicit.


I really hope that someone will sponsor the package as the application has been in development for 1.5 years and has a growing community.

 To access further information about this package, please visit the following URL:

 https://www.juliar.org


 Alternatively, one can download the package using instructions found at

 https://www.juliar.org

 More information about hello can be obtained from https://www.juliar.org

 Changes since the last upload:


You should be closing an ITP bug at least [1].

[1] https://wiki.debian.org/ITP

Closing remark:

Why oh why naming a new programming language "juliar", when we already have the Julia and R languages...
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