Bug#757176: RFS: xombrero/2:1.6.3-1 -- Minimalist's web browser
Hi Luis,
I think you misunderstood my comments. I will try be clear: you can't
add an imaginary license. So, remove the imaginary licenses from
d/copyright and I will can upload your package. Thus, the files as png
and xpm will use the same license of the whole package.
Thanks,
Eriberto
2014-08-18 17:55 GMT-03:00 Luis Henriques <henrix@camandro.org>:
> On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 06:58:15PM -0300, Eriberto wrote:
>> 2014-08-17 17:27 GMT-03:00 Luis Henriques <henrix@camandro.org>:
>> > Hi Eriberto,
>>
>>
>> Hi!!!
>>
>>
>> > On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 08:32:55PM -0300, Eriberto wrote:
>> >> Hi Luis,
>> >>
>> >> Sorry for my delay and congratulations for your work. I agree with
>> >> your considerations.
>> >
>> > Again, thanks a *lot* for reviewing my xombrero package!
>>
>>
>> You are welcome. :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> > For example, in your example above, I would interpret it as having file
>> > 'xombrero.css' copyrighted by all those authors, even if the real copyright
>> > owner is only Josh Rickmar; the same is true for the xombrero.1 file: the
>> > only copyright owners are Marco Peereboom, Jason McIntyre and Josh
>> > Rickmar.
>> >
>> > My debian/copyright contains more detailed information, that allows to
>> > know exactly who owns the copyright for each file individually. Of course
>> > I do group some of the files, but the copyrights are so different between
>> > different files that I decided not to use the 'Files: *' pattern (although
>> > I use the 'Files: debian/*' pattern).
>>
>>
>> If you and I write a book, our names will be put on the cover without
>> a distinction. So, when three people write a program, all are
>> upstreams. So, is uncommon separate the upstreams. A split in several
>> paragraphs will make the maintaining of this package hard. I can
>> upload your package. However, I never saw it and, maybe, the
>> FTP-Master can reject. (your package will be NEW because it doesn't
>> exist on Debian)
>>
>> Please, read these itens:
>>
>> 1. Item Copyright in
>> https://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/copyright-format/1.0/#fields
>>
>> 2. Example 4 in
>> https://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/copyright-format/1.0/#fields
>>
>> A conclusion: I understand your idea but it is no usual.
>>
>>
>
> Ok, got it and I'm convinced :-) Thanks for your patience.
>
>> > Anyway, I'm OK following the approach you're suggesting -- I just want to
>> > confirm that my understanding is correct and this is exactly what you want
>> > me to do.
>> >
>> > <snip>
>> >
>> >>
>> >> I have two doubts:
>> >>
>> >> Where you saw that the files style.css, *.png, tordisabled.ico and
>> >> torenabled.ico are using the CC-BY-SA license?
>> >>
>> >
>> > The license for the style.css is mentioned in the xombrero website
>> > (https://opensource.conformal.com/wiki/xombrero).
>>
>> Ok. It is a common problem with CC, GPL and others. From CC site[1]:
>>
>> "You must include a copy of, or the Uniform Resource Identifier (URI)
>> for, this License with every copy of the Work You Distribute or
>> Publicly Perform."
>>
>> So, the license needs to be put inside the tarball. If not, you can't
>> refer to this license and, consequently, the png will use the same
>> license of the main source code.
>>
>
> OK, that makes sense perfect.
>
> Unfortunately, I'm afraid I can't afford spending any more time with the
> xombrero package at the moment. And having to deal with upstream to fix
> this particular issue isn't something particularly interesting (it hasn't
> been particularly... "pleasant" to deal with the xombrero developers in the
> past ;-) ).
>
> Anyway, if someone else volunteers to fix the remaining issues with the
> xombrero package, I'm more than happy to share what I've at the moment.
>
> Again, thanks a lot for your reviews Eriberto!
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Luis
>
>
>> [1] http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/legalcode
>>
>> >
>> > Regarding the tor icons, they are reused from the tor project and the
>> > terms and license we're taken from the project website
>> > (https://www.torproject.org/).
>>
>>
>> The same problem. The upstream failed when reused a code and didn't
>> describe the original license and credits (copyright notice).
>> Consequently: he can be prosecuted and you can't put a not explicit
>> license in d/copyright.
>>
>>
>> > Finally, the *png files licenses were confirmed in private emails with the
>> > xombrero project developers (iirc, when I first packaged xxxterm there was
>> > not public mailing list yet).
>>
>>
>> Can you guess what I will say you?
>>
>>
>> >> Where you found *.xpm files?
>> >>
>> >
>> > Ah, this one is generated my me in debian/rules from the xpm files.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ah, ok. They are derivated from *.png. The same problem with the license.
>>
>> Feel free to ask me about my explanation and thaks for your work and interest.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Eriberto
>
>
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