Re: Bug#591705: maint-guide: Please suggest joining a team
Hi,
In order to minimize translation breakage, it is best done by adding a
new paragraph.
On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 10:33:38AM -0400, Nick Gnat wrote:
> Here's a quick stab at shortening the wording:
Thanks.
> "If you are interested in packaging a particular type of software (e.g.
> games, perl modules, or KDE apps), it may be beneficial to join one of
> Debian's <a>packaging teams</a>. They'll be able to provide specific help
> for any packaging problems you may have, and will be far more likely than
> other developers to sponsor your package."
Example of team is good idea.
I see you are thinking mentoring by other team member... this is one
aspect. I was expecting shared VCS where new people can work part of
project etc. I think we should not make people expect too much help.
Volunteer project is mostly about selfleaning.
> I would put it in 1.4 "Where to ask for help," so that it seems more
> neutral, and something that could really benefit a new maintainer, but not
> something they should feel obligated to do.
"Where to ask for help" is for people needeing help. Your text fits
better there but I was thinking a bit different tone.
> Sorry for the unsolicited opinion, but I've been reading the New
> Maintainer's guide lately. For what it's worth, I'm always happy to help
> with phrasing, since I'm a native English speaker, and have a lot of editing
> experience.
Please send me typo fixes when ever you find them.
> On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Osamu Aoki <osamu@debian.org> wrote:
...
> > On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 07:45:41AM +0900, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
> > > Ansgar Burchardt <ansgar@2008.43-1.org> writes:
...
> > > > Please include a link to [1] and suggest to ask joining a packaging
> > team
> > > > somewhere. Maybe in "1.3 Official Debian Developer" and "1.4 Where to
> > > > ask for help" or even add an extra section in the first chapter.
I should have read this carefully. "add an extra section"! between 1.3
and 1.4 seems better idea. Something like a new "1.4 packaging team".
> > > Debian has various <a>packaging teams</a>. Please consider joining
> > > those related to your work.
Do not they usually have common VCS where you can work together?
> > > Doing so will make it easier for you to
> > > find sponsors to upload your packages to Debian and having people
> > > maintaining similar software to ask for help. Working on other
> > > packages maintained by the team will also be appreciated.
This proposal have more positive attitude toward contribution.
I think the last part is most important and along what has been added to
2.1. Anyway ... I am thinking ...
<section>Packaging teams
Debian has various <url id="http://wiki.debian.org/Teams#Packagingteams"; name="packaging teams">.
If you are interested in packaging a particular type of software (e.g.
games, perl modules, GNOME apps, or KDE apps), it may be beneficial to
join one meant for them.
They usually have common VCS for packages. Contributing to packages on
such VCS gives you opportunity to contribute without having full
scope of knowledge needed to be a maintainer. This is good learning
experience and will build your credibility among people with the same
kind of interest on packages and makes it more likely to find sponsors
of your package when you need them.
> > > In my opinion having teams also helps to get faster responses in general
> > > and distribute the workload to more people; a single maintainer might be
> > > busy with other work, resultfing in longer delays. Maybe this could be
> > > included somehow as well? I really think most packages should be
> > > maintained by a team :-)
I now realize that this part was not meant for inclusion to NM guide.
So the proposed text was neutral.
Good night
Osamu
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