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Re: A lot of pending packages



Quoting "Klaus Grue" <grue@diku.dk>:

Perhaps maintainers should stand up and review some packages of their peers?

Absolutely. This already happens a little bit. It would be excellent
if more people could do it.

Maybe my experience with Fedora and Cygwin could be of interest. As a new packager, I made my first package ('logiweb') and submitted it to Debian, Fedora, and Cygwin:

Aug 2009 Submitted http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=543550
Sep 2009 Submitted https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=523715
Mar 2010 Package pushed to Fedora stable
May 2010 Sent ITP to Cygwin
May 2010 Package uploaded to Cygwin

Sep-Mar I corrected the package under guidance of a Fedora sponsor (thanks). I was also lucky enough that a DD looked at my Debian package and gave guidance (thanks). But it seems that DD's are overloaded. At least my package is not in Debian yet.

Once my Fedora package was in shape, I was asked to demonstrate my technical skills by either preparing one more Fedora package or do a pre-review of some other package. So I chose to do a pre-review.

I picked a package, but somebody else was faster, and the package was processed before I could get started. Then I shortlisted ten packages I found I was competent to pre-review, waited a few days, three packages were taken, picked one of the remaining packages, assigned it to myself, and did the pre-review. When my pre-review was accepted by my sponsor, my package was uploaded.

Once accepted in Fedora, uploading to Cygwin went very smoothly (thanks).

So this is my experience with Fedora: When I came with my package, the Fedora community did something for me (reviewed the package) then required me to do something for them (do a pre-review), and the package was accepted. That seems quite fair.

Furthermore, Fedora had a list of packages waiting for review, and it was easy to find one to pick.

I am not saying Fedora is ideal. On a Fedora mailing list, I just saw an invitation to come and celebrate the one-year anniversary of a Fedora review request.

My point, however, is that having some sort of formalized way in which maintainers can unload DDs could be a good thing.

This is really nice experience, however I strongly believe that all of that is also possible with Debian in its current form. You are allowed to do any tech work DDs are allowed, except uploading, voting and reading -private list until you gain DD (or resp. DM status), and it would be helpful indeed. Simply reviewing and/or uploading packages for the sake of it does not seem very efficient way to spend human time and archive space to me, otoh helping neglected packages or co-reviwing new hot or interesting packages makes sense and is absolutely possible, but then again people have different interests sometimes, so finding a match could be an issue, and it actually is most of the time.


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