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Re: [Fwd: Re: Denemo]

Rogério's mail ([0]) gave me desire to insist.

Now I'm being much more clearer and short: a (not so unpopular) package
(Denemo) is unmaintained. It has bugs and a very old version packaged,
which upstream strongly suggests to avoid. I repackaged it from scratch:
last upstream version (and changes aren't really minor, also w.r.t.
packaging), and dropped CDBS.

To the first mail I send, the maintainer answers, after 15 days, "I have
no time to comment".
To the second mail, where I link the package I made, no answer after 18

What should I do?

"Just wait" would also be an admissible response... but _how much time_?
And then?



[0]: http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2009/08/msg00308.html

P.S: please CC me too, I'm in -mentors but not in -devel

Il giorno dom, 16/08/2009 alle 18.49 +0200, Pietro Battiston ha
> Hello,
> the situation of the package denemo is perfectly described in the
> following:
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=513285
> Notice that today if a Debian user wants to use denemo, the best thing
> to do is certainly to use the package at [1], as far as:
> - you use i386
> - you don't care about installing a binary package without source,
> poorly packaged (several lintian errors) and not provided by any
> repository
> Moving from that sad situation (on a quite popular package - > 500
> popcon reports - in particular considering that being the version
> distributed with debian so obsolete and the upstream debs packages very
> recent, probably lot of people just install from source), I wanted to
> update the existing package to last denemo version, 1.8.6. In the
> attached email, sent to the current maintainer, I explain the details.
> The short mail from Gunter was the answer to my precedent (14 days
> before's) email asking "may I ask you to comment on the bug report
> #513285 ?".
> Since I didn't receive an answer from Gunter to the forwarded email
> (after 15 days), I'm resending here to get some enlightenment. I'm
> afraid NMU is not the key word here, since I'm changing version and
> packaging tools (however, doing a NMU that doesn't bring in last
> upstream version would be pointless, and I personally won't learn CDBS).
> Just to be clear, I don't want to blame Gunter for anything: he's just
> busy, stop. I just want denemo in debian, so I'm asking "what to do?".
> thanks
> Pietro Battiston
> ------- Messaggio inoltrato -------
> > Da: Pietro Battiston <toobaz@email.it>
> > A: Günter Geiger <geiger@xdv.org>
> > Oggetto: Re: Denemo
> > Data: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 10:36:00 +0200
> > 
> > Il giorno mer, 22/07/2009 alle 20.11 +0200, Günter Geiger ha scritto:
> > > Hi, 
> > > 
> > > No, it is ok to ask for my comment. I just do not have the time
> > > currently. 
> > > 
> > > Best, 
> > > 
> > > Gunter
> > 
> > It would be useless to debate on how much time it takes to write "I do
> > not have the time" on a bug report vs. in a private mail, so it's not
> > what I'm writing you about. I have repackaged the last denemo: 0.8.6. It
> > is lintian clean, works, I reapplied both your patches, added a patch
> > which upstream still didn't adopt and which shows the icon on Linux,
> > wrote a manpage for the now included smfsh and updated copyright and
> > watch file. You can find the dsc at:
> > 
> > http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/d/denemo/denemo_0.8.6-1.dsc
> > 
> > Just tell me what to do now.
> > 
> > Currently the package contains the original changelog with my add-on
> > (and several of the currently open bugs as "Closes" - there may be more,
> > but for them I'll ask confirmation to the submitters once the package is
> > available). However, truth is that I completely repackaged denemo,
> > without using CDBS (I tried, but I just dropped it because I didn't have
> > enough time to learn how to fix problems with what to my very very
> > personal taste seemed a crippled system). That's why I figure as a
> > maintainer. However I'm not particularly interested in being it, I only
> > want a working denemo in debian as soon as possible: so, while the
> > current thing is just ready to be sponsored, please feel free to decide
> > the form you want the upload to take - NMU? You sponsor me? You silently
> > adopt my repackaging and put still your name as maintainer? You orphan,
> > I adopt? You orphan, I ITP?
> > 
> > Notice that I would warmly appreciate if in a way or another _you_ could
> > upload the package and spare me the boring job of finding a sponsor.
> > 
> > But most of all I would appreciate a fast response, whatever it will be.
> > 
> > thank you
> > 
> > Pietro

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