On Wednesday 27 August 2008 20:23, Neil Williams wrote: > > Plus, I've surely not seen anyone being "flamed [...] by the security > > team", let alone "to crisp", > > (Some of that happened off-list and one of the people involved is > well-known to me due to interests outside Debian. I can vouch that some > of the off-list stuff was easily described as 'flaming to a crisp'.) > > > let even further alone those "many" people you're > > talking about, and find the suggestion that we would act in such a way a > > bit offensive. > > Mentors might not, others certainly have done. It doesn't serve the list > to pretend that security and PHP are not poor bedfellows or that PHP > will not invite some very firm, very pointed and extremely critical > responses outside this list. Whatever you personally think of PHP, I'm not charmed with you making allegations on a public forum that "many" people were "flamed to crisp" by the team I am a member of, but then fail to support that statement when asked where you base it on. If you want to make statements that put a team in a bad light in a public forum you'll have to be prepared to back them up. It seems to boil down to "trust me, I once heard somewhere that a person was flamed by a security team member". I think it's evident that I'm not charmed by you postulating that "many" people were "flamed" by that team, suggesting structural issues, without presenting a piece of material on that. I believe that only helps to set a negative atmosphere around that team. Thijs
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