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Re: Re: ITR: dbishell - QA upload



On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 10:46 +0200, jorgen.hagg@axis.com wrote:
> >Are you sure it is worth keeping it in Debian? I'm not convinced.
> 
> Coming from one who use it almost daily, yes, please try to keep it. :-)

I'm certainly not going to maintain it and Sandro has already stated
that he doesn't have sufficient interest in the package to do the extra
work required (effectively becoming upstream). Are you going to do it?

If so, CC the RM bug report before ftp-master gets around to removing
the package.

http://packages.qa.debian.org/d/dbishell.html

This package has been requested to be removed. This means that, when
this request gets processed by an ftp-master, this package will no
longer be in unstable, and will automatically be removed from testing
too afterwards. If for some reason you want keep this package in
unstable, please discuss so in the bug. Please see bug number #465851
for more information.

> The command line interface is (actually) good, using sqlplus for
> oracle really sucks.

Sorry, I really don't give two hoots about any non-free stuff -
especially non-free stuff that is not even distributable *in* Debian
non-free. Supporting Oracle just isn't something I care about, at least
until *all* of Oracle is released under the GPLv3 or later. (Like that's
going to happen.)

I was prepared to work with dbishell to aid support of free software in
Debian but the free software clients have already surpassed what
dbishell can offer, IMHO. As such, if Oracle lags behind then that is
the fault of those who prevent the inclusion of Oracle in main.

> I'm, however, not fanatic about it, I could switch to an equal alternative,
> if it has the same command line feeling.

AFAICT that is not an available option. Either someone steps up to
maintain it, retitles the RM bug to ITA before it is removed from
testing (in about a week maybe) and makes all the changes necessary for
the package to be reintroduced into unstable, OR, it is removed from
Lenny and unstable. Those who already have it installed can continue to
use it. Removal only removes it from the mirrors, not the installed
systems - however, the amount of bit rot already evident in the package
will eventually make it impossible to keep it installed alongside other
packages that are being actively maintained due to updates in the
dependencies.

IMHO, dbishell deserves to be removed from Debian as outdated, bit
rotting, abandoned crud - if you disagree, it is up to you to fix the
bit rot and take the package on as maintainer (and in this case,
upstream too). Sorry but it's a case of fix it or lose it. :-)

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Neil Williams
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