Re: Ubuntu-to-Debian packaging
Le Monday 26 November 2007 22:10:46 Patrick Schoenfeld, vous avez écrit :
> > other people at Debian told me that changelog should begin when the
> > package begins in Debian, no matter if it had been used before somewhere
> There is no consensous about this. See the list archive for -mentors.
> Their have been several discussions on this topic and there are a lot of
> Debian Developers that don't agree with this. Also I am quiet sure there
> is the talking about *your own* work. The difference is that you can do
> whatever you like with *your* work, while you can't just take the work
> from others and do like they never did it.
Fine, there is no consensus, that's true.
However, your arguments are not much consistent as well since you mix
copyright related issues ("take the work from others") and technical issues
("track recent changes before initial debian upload").
> > else. I don't know if there is a policy for this, but I would like to
> Thats bad. You should not answer to such questions if you don't know it
> for your self! Thats especially true because of your DD status that
> causes others to give your saying more confidence.
Please, try to keep friendly, I don't think there's anything in this
discussion that needs this kind of langage..
> > think there are no preferences between some derivatives and some others.
> > I have not seen changelogs containing knoppix, progeny, mepis or linex
> > entries...
> Giving a preference to one derivative is probably not the best idea, but if
> someone takes the work from others to integrate it into Debian or the
> otherway round then he should not just drop the packages history. And
> btw. Ubuntu does not do that. And: I gave you some rationales why it
> is bad. Whats yours?
> Compared to *that* case there is another case were I find it reasonable
> to drop changelog history. Say for example a package that evolves in
> your own private history.
So that's definitly a personal taste for that.
You may miss important informations while erasing previous changelog, as well
as you could spam the changelog with minor changes that would be
I personally endorse the erase *personal* policy since I believe any important
fact on the package should, hence, not be in the changelog but on a file like
README.Debian or else, and that I believe it's relevant to see on the debian
changelog only debian related changes.
Other don't do like this, so what's the point ? Perhaps that's the reason why
there's no official policy, and I think we don't need official policy for
And yes, you credit initial maintainers on the copyright of course.