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Re: Proposal for collaborative maintenance of packages

On Thu, Dec 29, 2005 at 03:43:59PM +1100, skaller wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 23:50 -0200, Gustavo Franco wrote:

> > > (...)
> > > I wasn't addressing your point specifically. Instead, I'm raising
> > > another one. The whole Debian system is a serious pain and an
> > > impediment to cooperation. Ubuntu is not much better.
> > > 
> > > I should not have to be a DD to commit to
> > > the archive -- ANYONE should be able to commit perhaps with
> > > some minimal registration requirements.
> > > 
> > > This is how Wikipedia works and why it is successful. With minimal
> > > fuss I have contributed some comments and a couple of changes.


> > There is no serious pain in how Debian and Ubuntu are handling their
> > packages, IMHO. 

> How would YOU know??? You're a DD. I'm not. You have access
> to resources .. I don't. But I am the one actually building
> the software. I am not meaning to be rude: I'm pointing out that
> insiders are NOT qualified to comment on how outsiders feel
> about how easy it is for THEM to contribute.

While insiders are not qualified to comment on how outsiders *feel* about
the process, they are certainly the people to judge whether the *outcome* of
the process is the correct one.  Sorry, if you want Debian to make
particular changes to make it easier to contribute, you're much better off
arguing it in terms of the *benefits to the project* (and mitigation of the
risks) than in terms of how it makes a set of possible contributors feel.

And this...

> I run Ubuntu .. I can't even test my own Debian package
> on my own system.

isn't a great argument that this is a low-risk change...

Steve Langasek                   Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS
Debian Developer                   to set it on, and I can move the world.
vorlon@debian.org                                   http://www.debian.org/

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