Re: First steps in packaging

[Pete Ryland <pdr@pdr.cx>]

On Fri, Apr 18, 2003 at 01:54:59PM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Apr 2003, Pete Ryland wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 17, 2003 at 11:46:21AM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> > > On Wed, 16 Apr 2003, David Z Maze wrote:
> > > > Your mailer doesn't have a "reply to all" button?  Get a better one,
> > > > Debian has lots.
> > > 
> > > The problem we're discussing, though, is that "reply to all" means
> > > exactly that - to *all*.
> > 
> > Hmm.. I recall "reply to list" being mentioned, not "reply to all" which
> > is different.  I've already deleted David's mail, but is that really
> > what he said?
> 
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2003/debian-mentors-200304/msg00265.html

Ok, fair enough.  I must have just misread the first time.

> Or would you like to accuse me of tampering with the list archives while
> you're at it?

Oh, ok.  If you'd like. ;-)

> Out of interest, are there any MUAs which have a separate "reply to list"
> function?

Most do AFAIK.  Not sure about pine, but then it's not in Debian anyway.

> > Duplicate removal is easy, yes, but if you were to reply to me *and* the
> > list, the mail sent directly to me will usually get to me first and so
> > the one sent to the list will be removed.  This means that it will end
> > up in my normal inbox rather than my mailbox for said list, which is
> > slightly annoying.
> 
> It depends on how you're filtering your lists.  I get a personal copy in
> my inbox and one to the list (which is what you're talking about) because
> I filter based on the headers added by the list software.  It could be
> PITA I suppose, although I don't think it would bother me because I'm
> pretty careful these days about who an e-mail is going to (after some
> oopses in the eldar days).  If you filter based on procmail's _TO (is that
> the macro for it?) or something like that, then both copies should (I
> imagine) end up in the folder for the mailing list.

I use a catch all lists in my procmail, so I don't have to do anything when
I join a new list:

# Most lists
:0
* ^((List-Id|X-(Mailing-)?List):(.*[<]\/[^>]*))
{ 
        LISTID=$MATCH
  
        :0:
        * LISTID ?? ^\/[^@\.]*
        IN.$MATCH
}

# Majordomo
:0
* ^Sender: owner-[^@]+@[^@\+]+
* ^Sender: owner-\/[^@\+]+
{
   :0:
   IN.$MATCH
}

:0
* ^Sender: [^-@]+-(list-)?owner@[^@\+]+
* ^Sender: \/[^-@]+(-list)?
{
   :0:
   IN.$MATCH
}

And then some ^TO rules for some other lists that don't work with the above.

This works pretty well, apart from the dup removal problem.  I have some
mates that insist on using nothing but "reply to all" so it's kind of
necessary.

> Duplicates, though, don't bother me - I figure it's not an excessive
> hassle, and I normally go through all my mailboxes at once, so I should be
> able to remember which messages I've already replied to.

Fair enough.

Pete
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Pete Ryland
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