On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 10:19:43PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 06:38:41PM -0400, Duncan Findlay wrote: > > > 1. how does one get an advocate? > > > The best way is to package a piece of software, and make the packages > > available somewhere. Apply to be a NM, and post a message to > > debian-mentors@lists.debian.org asking for a sponsor. A sponsor will > > take a look at your package and (assuming all goes well) upload them. > > If they are sufficiently impressed, they will likely be your advocate. > > This places the emphasis on packaging software that's not yet in Debian, > which is wrong, IMHO. A better answer is that you get an advocate by > getting involved in Debian development -- by helping tackle some of the > many open bugs against existing packages, or doing QA work, or adopting > an orphaned package, or working on the installer, or perhaps by > packaging useful software that's not yet part of Debian. I didn't mean to imply that this package should be new; that's not the case at all. However, if they are adopting an orphaned package they still need to follow the same steps, i.e. make a package available for someone considering sponsoring them. QA work, tackling bugs, etc is important, but generally Task & Skills requires an NM to demonstrate packaging ability. I agree that involvement in the Debian community/Debian development is important before becoming a NM, but I feel it's safe to assume that one has been sufficiently involved in the community once they show a desire to become a NM. > Creating new packages is an easy way to demonstrate that one has many of > the skills required to be a DD, but more is demanded of DDs than just > raw skill. demanded? All that we technically demand is that a candidate agrees with our policies and procedures, and demonstrate packaging ability (or other (raw) skills). And, of course, proof of ID. I agree that this may not be the ideal situation, but that's the way it is. -- Duncan Findlay
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