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Re: dependencies on new packages



On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 01:03:54PM +0200, Pierre Gruet wrote:
> I asked the question on debian-java mailing lists some days ago, I got
> an answer from Olek Wojnar [0], his personal policy was to be cautious
> in order to avoid build issues.
> Indeed, I have already seen many packages not exiting NEW in the order
> they entered it.

That's definitely the case.  The Debian New queue is no queue which I
would definde as First-In-First-Out store.  Its rather a
First-In-Random-Out store - but for various reasons which are only
partly known to me.  For instance I have the impression that packages
in R or go are very quickly picked by some ftpmaster - may be these
are somehow "famous" for beeing easy due to very sensible metadata
that enable easy creation of the d/copyright file.

Its also always possible to "influence" ftpmaster to pick one package
before the other by either answering the mail you get or pinging on
#debian-ftp (I have no idea which channel might work better.  Both have
worked nicely sometimes or failed in other cases.)

Influencing ftpmaster makes perfectly sense when you are uploading two
packages while one depends from the other.  Just tell ftpmaster which
one should be processed first.  While ftpmaster has a tool do check
those inter-package relations we should not rely that this tool is used
in every single case.  I have uploaded libargs[1] now the second time
after a reject and two other packages are depending from it and where
accepte months ago.  It is not an optimal solution since I can not do
any source-only upload of the other packages.  On the other hand I
realised that world is keep on turning round over these months and I
have more important packages I wished to be processed.

In short:  If you finalised new packages that are depending from
each other please upload them soon and hope they get accepted in
the right sequence (by sending an informational mail to be sure)
and than cross fingers that all will go well.

Kind regards

      Andreas.
 
> [0] https://lists.debian.org/debian-java/2020/09/msg00012.html
[1] https://ftp-master.debian.org/new/libargs_6.2.2-1.html

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