Re: Chances for cooperation between OSDDLinux and Debian
Hi Raghava,
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 04:40:52PM +0530, G P S Raghava wrote:
> Dear Andreas
>
> Thanks for your email and detail response to my quiries. We have
> created debian package for our number of software, though they are not
> perfect but works.
It is great to start with a set of packages which are somehow working
and finalise them by polishing.
> Mean time I have a request from members of this
> community, please have a look on our repository and suggestions. I mean,
> what is required to make them official package of Debian.
Surely I have looked into your repository - that's actually the reason
why I considered contacting you in the first place. The requirements
are:
1. (DFSG) free software
2. somebody who does the maintenance
Since you are just building Debian packages you can most probably commit
the packaging code into the Debian Med VCS (as described in our team
policy[1]) and we will "sponsor" the packages to the official mirror.
This is probably a successive process because we will have problems to
do this for all packages in one rush.
> Mean time, we
> are reading about conditions required to make a package debian package.
You are best advised to read our team policy - specifically the hints for
newcomers[2].
> We will try to attend the conference you suggested, all depend on
> finance.
I can not promise to much but team sprints are supported by Debian to
some extent. Usually this means covering the costs of official Debian
developers but we do not have a final calculation. In any case if this
might help for your decision I'd volunteer to hand over my share
(~250Eur) to somebody of your team if this might fill a needed gap.
> Developers from my group also joining mailing list. Do we have any
> person on this mailing list who has expertise in packaging, belong to
> our region (India).
Joining the mailing list makes perfectly sense. There are several
experienced packagers lurking on this list. I have no idea what you
mean by "belong to $any region". We have an i18n team in Debian if
there are any country specific things but from a first view on your list
I do not see any specifics for India. But apropos India: We have
written a paper[3] which was originally intended to be published in an
Indian journal (see the discussion here [4]) but I have not heard from
the person who asked me to write this article and I think it is a nice
reading anyway. So we should look for a proper place to publish the
text once it is written at some more reasonable / prominent place than
here[3] - but for the moment it might help you understanding what we
finally are approaching and in how far this is in line with your goals.
Kind regards
Andreas.
[1] http://debian-med.alioth.debian.org/docs/policy.html
[2] http://debian-med.alioth.debian.org/docs/policy.html#packagingguidelines
[3] http://debian-med.alioth.debian.org/docs/debian-med-healthcafe.pdf
[4] https://lists.debian.org/debian-med/2013/02/msg00129.html
> From: Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu>
> Subject: Re: Chances for cooperation between OSDDLinux and Debian
> Date: 21 November 2013 3:12:04 AM GMT+05:30
> To: G P S Raghava <raghava@imtech.res.in>
> Hi Raghava,
>
> please feel free to quote me fully on Debian Med mailing list - I'd
> prefer open discussion since other team members are definitely
> interested.
>
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 12:38:21AM +0530, G P S Raghava wrote:
> > Dear Andreas
> > Sorry for late response. One of the reason, I have not written to you
> > earlier is that OSDDlinux is not fully finished.
>
> Well, is there any software that is finished at all? ;-)
>
> IMHO this is no reason at all. The point is that we really want to help
> you reaching your goals - thus getting stronger contact right now would
> be better than doing this later.
>
> > We are are expert in biological science but we have limited knowledge
> > in the filed of system software.
>
> So that would be a perfect match with Debian Med team. While there are
> also a couple of biologists we also have people wo are more into system
> questions. This mix has been quite successful as I wanted to point out
> in my initial mail.
>
> > Our group http://www.imtech.res.in/raghava/ have developed large
> > number of web-based service (more than 150) related to
> > bioinformtics/chemoinformatics/vaccineinformatics. Thus for us major
> > challenge is to make our web-services available to public in form of
> > standalone software and integration with workflow GALAXY. We achieved it
> > successfully, we develop standalone software and Galaxy-compaitable
> > software, thus our first phase is nearly complete. Now , we are learning
> > to develop debian-packages, soon all software packages our own and third
> > party will be available in form of debian-package.
>
> Since I realised this from your web page I approached you because it is
> our goal to support this.
>
> > We are strong supporter of open source, we have developed open
> > software related to drug and vaccine informatics. I fully agree with you
> > that we should work in cooperation mode so we complement each other
> > work. We are interested, please give suggestions how can we proceed
> > further .
>
> As I said it would most probably very effective if one (or more) people
> of your team might join our meeting in January next year:
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMed/Meeting/Aberdeen2014
>
> I'm also offering so called Mentoring of the Month
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMed/MoM
>
> for personal training of newbies. From our point of view the best way
> to help you would be to integrate your packages of interest straight
> into official Debian to put them under effective quality assurance
> control (there are several means inside Debian which saves you a lot
> of work). So if at least one better two or three developers of your
> team might commit to our packaging Vcs and work together with packaging
> and testing this could be a very fruitful cooperation.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Andreas.
>
> On 19-Nov-2013, at 9:30 PM, Andreas Tille wrote:
>
> > Hi Raghava,
> >
> > this is just a ping since we are waiting for a more detailed answer. As
> > I said we would be very happy to use the chance for a face to face
> > meeting.
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> > Andreas.
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 10:20:08PM +0530, G P S Raghava wrote:
> >> Dear Andreas
> >> Thanks for your email and offer for cooperation. We are very much interested to work with debian-med and biolinux, as all three debian-med , biolinux and OSDDlinux have common object to provide service to the scientific community. I will write detail email to you soon.
> >>
> >> With best wishes & regards
> >>
> >> Raghava
> >> #=========================================================#
> >> # Dr G P S Raghava FASc, FNASc, Scientist & Head Bioinformatics Centre #
> >> # CSIR- Institute of Microbial Technology, Sector-39A, Chandigarh, India #
> >> # Phone: +91-172-2690557, 0172-6665450 ; Fax: +91-172-2690632 #
> >> # Eadd: http://www.imtech.res.in/raghava/ Email: raghava@imtech.res.in #
> >> #=========================================================#
> >>
> >> Google Scholar: http://scholar.google.co.in/citations?user=XK5GUiYAAAAJ&hl=en
> >>
> >> On 15-Oct-2013, at 2:36 PM, Andreas Tille wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I'm contacting you on behalf of the Debian Med team which has the goal
> >>> to package any Free Software that is relevant for medical care straight
> >>> into Debian.[1]
> >>>
> >>> Your OSDDlinux looks like an exciting implementation of our idea to
> >>> bring Debian to the end user. Our goal is to prepare as much as
> >>> possible straight into Debian to make your work as easy as possible - in
> >>> an optimal situation you should be able to autogenerate your
> >>> distribution straight from the Debian package pool so your content is
> >>> actually Debian and you just need to care for some user oriented
> >>> customisation, support and contact to your users. I hope you might like
> >>> this idea - at least the BioLinux distriution[2] which in principle has
> >>> the very same goal like you just for a different target user group is
> >>> happy about the cooperation we established since more than three years.
> >>>
> >>> If you look at our so called web sentinel for instance on the biology
> >>> section[3] you will find a lot of matches to your NGS page[4] (and on
> >>> other pages - just to mention an example). Our goal would be to work
> >>> on the missings between your page and our software pool to enable you
> >>> to profit directly from the work done inside Debian.
> >>>
> >>> The cooperation with BioLinux developers was established in a way that
> >>> we are working inside the very same version control system(s - we are
> >>> using Git or SVN at the developers preference). So changes made in
> >>> BioLinux will immediately forewardet into the Debian package and if a
> >>> Debian developer changes something this directly leads to an enhancement
> >>> inside BioLinux. We regard this as a win-win-situation to save time and
> >>> man power on both sides.
> >>>
> >>> If you like to learn more about this you are kindly invited to sign into
> >>> the Debian Med mailing list[5] and ask any relevant question there or
> >>> even simply raise our awareness to some of your high priority package of
> >>> yours to ask us for inclusion into Debian.
> >>>
> >>> Moreover there is an excellent chance to meet Debian Med and BioLinux
> >>> developers in person because we will have our yearly Sprint meeting in
> >>> end of January next year in Aberdeen.[6] This meetings have some
> >>> tradition[7] in our small community and leaded to the effect that our
> >>> community was developing way better than before. If you look at the
> >>> Debian team analysis graphs that are collected here[8] you see a general
> >>> pattern of higher activity since 2011 - which was the time when we had
> >>> our first meeting. We would like to invite you to become part of this
> >>> development so if at least one of your developers would like to join
> >>> this could really be in the interest of both parties.
> >>>
> >>> Kind regards and thanks for your contribution to Free Software
> >>>
> >>> Andreas.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> [1] http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-med
> >>> [2] http://nebc.nerc.ac.uk/tools/bio-linux/
> >>> [3] http://debian-med.alioth.debian.org/tasks/bio
> >>> [4] http://osddlinux.osdd.net/ngs.php
> >>> [5] http://lists.debian.org/debian-med
> >>> [6] https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMed/Meeting/Aberdeen2014
> >>> [7] https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMed/Meeting
> >>> [8] http://debian-med.debian.net/
> >>>
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