tags 596529 +wontfix
severity 596529 wishlist
thanks
Hi Rob,
(LSB maintainer wannabe [#616131] hat on).
Le 12.09.2010 15:45, Rob Fortune a écrit :
> According to:
>
> http://refspecs.freestandards.org/LSB_3.2.0/LSB-Core-generic/LSB-Core-generic/iniscrptfunc.html
>
> The following functions should be caused to exist:
>
> start_daemon, killproc, pidofproc, log_success_msg, log_failure_msg,
> log_warning_msg
>
> Your implementation does this, however it also causes a million other
> functions to exist which are not specified and programs rely on them
> since because you have put them in there, those programs believe them to
> be part of LSB.
("a million" is an obvious over-simplification).
Debian is currently not a certified LSB distribution (and will probably
not be in the near future).
It _is_ providing the mandatory functions, allowing an LSB-valid init
script to run on Debian.
Now if people write programs that use non-LSB convenience functions
provided by Debian and claim that those are LSB-compliant (despite
Debian not being LSB-certified), that's nothing Debian can take the
responsability of.
> This is causing corruption of the purpose of LSB. A perfectly confirming
> LSB distribution will not be able to run programs relying on debian
> specific functions caused to appear by this script. That causes harm to
> the whole purpose of having a common base.
While I see the problem you point, I disagree with your choice of words.
> You should unset your internal functions that are not in the list above
> before returning and if you want to use them as part of your
> implementation of the /lib/lsb/init-functions script, place them in a
> separate file, which /lib/lsb/init-functions sources and the other
> applications which wish to use them can source too. All the functions
> not specified by LSB should be unset before the script returns or you
> are harming the Linux community.
Again, I find your choice of words unnecessarily offensive.
Anyway, /lib/lsb/init-functions is currently sourced by millions (sic)
of init scripts in Debian packages and dropping functions from it will
impose a bunch of work for many Debian package maintainers, for the sole
purpose of "not providing more functions than what LSB mandates". I will
not push for this change, hence the "wontfix" tag.
Finally, I note that the LSB specification doesn't say
/lib/lsb/init-functions cannot provide more functions; it only writes
down which functions shall be provided; and those are provided by
Debian's /lib/lsb/init-functions.
Cheers,
OdyX
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