I assume I am correct in thinking that you had no intention for any of
the boot screen (grub/syslinux/isolinux) images you have supplied to be
used in this way for install/live boot menus, but it might be helpful to
the discussion if you could please confirm this
On 11/02/2015 14:01, juliette Belin wrote:
> I just upload a new archive with the svg isolinux file and the lock
> screen that I have forgotten to add few weeks ago.
> Could you please tell me again what is needed to complete the theme ?
Hi Juliette,
Per the official artwork requirements you've supplied everything that
was asked for, however there is another image which is needed which
isn't listed in those requirements, and which I believe the Debian
d-i/cd teams seem to just be taking it upon themselves to create (and
not doing a perfect job of doing so imo).
The image in question is the bootloader splash used for the boot menu of
the official install media, and which is also used by live CD media
produced with live-build. I have attached a screenshot
(wheezy-install.png) from a Wheezy install disc to be clear about what
image I am talking about.
Daniel contacted you in relation to provisioning an updated Lines based
version of this image for use with the live-build tool (for which he is
the maintainer).
I assume I am correct in thinking that you had no intention for any of
the boot screen (grub/syslinux/isolinux) images you have supplied to be
used in this way for install/live boot menus, but it might be helpful to
the discussion if you could please confirm this.
As you can see at [1] and [2] the Debian d-i and cd teams have once
again taken the base theme assets and generated the required splash
image themselves for install disc use (I assume you did not create it
and send it to them privately). I have also attached a copy of these
including a png conversion of the d-i svg.
I am not trying to be antagonistic over the Debian d-i/cd teams creating
this, though I am in favour of the theme artist doing it; this entire
discussion simply developed in relation to getting an updated image
available for live-build.
As a perfectionist, I am not entirely happy with the images the d-i and
cd teams have produced, specifically with the 'GNU/Linux' text they have
added. If you look at the png conversion of the d-i svg, the letter
spacing gets messed up (presumably a bug in the conversion software,
which can be gotten around by converting the text to a path). The cd
team's png is different, better letter spacing, but it's too far to the
right, and otherwise still doesn't look right to me.
On the 16th of last month, having only seen the cd team png, and
noticing that the svg used by live-build for Wheezy was different and
better in respect to the 'GNU/Linux' text (I have only just now
recognised that it is an exact copy of the d-i svg, previously I had
thought Daniel had made it), for a variety of reasons I took it upon
myself to produce a fresh svg of this. To be clear, I was not trying to
take any credit, I was just recreating their image as an svg (not
knowing about the d-i svg at that point) partly in order to fix their
messy 'GNU/Linux' text, and partly because an svg copy is wanted for
live-build.
I have attached a copy of the image I created (jnqnfe.zip). Basically I
just took your grub svg, resized the background to exactly 640x480 (it
was a little large), moved and resized the logo components to the right
place/size (dropping the '8'), and recreated the 'GNU/Linux' text, which
I then converted to a path.
I am not looking for any credit for the svg I produced. I am perfectly
happy for you to adopt it into your archive and claim the copyright, and
equally happy for you to recreate it yourself if you like.
Unlike with Wheezy, Daniel seems to wants to use an image created
directly by the theme author this time around, and not the svg produced
by the d-i team, presumably so that he can properly attribute copyright
to the theme author. Currently he has adopted your syslinux image, on
the basis that this is the image you have supplied (and syslinux is used
for the live CD boot menu). I feel that this is completely the wrong
image to be useing for live Cd boot menus. I am writing a separate email
to him at the same time as this one to argue against use of that image.
It would perhaps be helpful if you could recreate the image I made, or
at least adopt ownership of mine if that is acceptable, in order to help
address the copyright issue and allow what I feel to be the correct
image to be used in live-build.
I will try to see If I can get the artwork requirements amended to
include creation of this image to avoid all of this next time around.
Regards,
jnqnfe
[1]
http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/d-i/debian-installer.git/tree/build/boot/x86/pics/
[2]
http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/main/installer-amd64/current/images/cdrom/debian-cd_info.tar.gz