Re: ITP: thaifonts-siampradesh -- Thai TrueType fonts derived from DIP/SIPA contested fonts
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 5:39 PM, MJ Ray <mjr@phonecoop.coop> wrote:
> Theppitak Karoonboonyanan <thep@linux.thai.net> wrote:
>> * License : OFL-alike, with written notification requirement (see below)
>
> I believe this font is postcard-ware, so does not follow the DFSG, so
> cannot be part of debian. cc'ing debian-legal to check.
FYI, I once posted to consult with debian-legal last year [1],
but have got no answer so far. So, I decide to prepare the
pacakge for non-free.
[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2008/07/msg00008.html
>> * License:
>>
>> Font Computer Program License Agreement
>>
>> Reserved Font Names for this Font Computer Program:
>> TH Krub, TH Krub Italic, TH Krub Bold, TH Krub Bold Italic,
>> TH Niramit AS, TH Niramit AS Italic, TH Niramit AS Bold, TH Niramit AS Bold Italic,
>> TH Kodchasal, TH Kodchasal Italic, TH Kodchasal Bold, TH Kodchasal Bold Italic,
>> TH Sarabun PSK, TH Sarabun PSK Italic, TH Sarabun PSK Bold, TH Sarabun PSK Bold Italic,
>> TH K2D July8, TH K2D July8 Italic, TH K2D July8 Bold, TH K2D July8 Bold Italic,
>> TH Mali Grade 6, TH Mali Grade 6 Italic, TH Mali Grade 6 Bold, TH Mali Grade 6 Bold Italic,
>> TH Chakra Petch, TH Chakra Petch Italic, TH Chakra Petch Bold, TH Chakra Petch Bold Italic,
>> TH Baijam, TH Baijam Italic, TH Baijam Bold, TH Baijam Bold Italic,
>> TH KoHo, TH KoHo Italic, TH KoHo Bold, TH KoHo Bold Italic,
>> TH Fah Kwang, TH Fah Kwang Italic, TH Fah Kwang Bold, TH Fah Kwang Bold Italic.
>
> This is a long list of reserved names. I don't know Thai words.
> Does anyone know if the names are words which would usually be used
> otherwise? If so, this is a significant restriction on derived works
> which would break DFSG 3 and/or 4.
They can be considered proper names.
Each line represents a font family shipped in the package.
>> This Font Computer Program is the copyright of the Department of Intellectual
>> Property (DIP), Ministry of Commerce and the Software Industry Promotion Agency
>> (Public Organization) (SIPA)
>>
>> The purposes of this Font Computer Program License are to stimulate worldwide
>> development of cooperative font creation, to benefit for academic, to share and
>> to develop in partnership with others.
>
> While not a DFSG problem, I think it's misleading to call this
> cooperative font creation when the sale restriction limits economic
> participation and the notification requirement means it is not
> autonomous. Compare http://www.ica.coop/coop/principles.html
Well, it's the same restriction as found in DejaVu font, anyway:
"The Font Software may be sold as part of a larger software package but no
copy of one or more of the Font Software typefaces may be sold by itself."
>> Terms and Conditions of the Font Computer Program
>>
>> (1) Allow to use without any charges and allow to reproduce, study, adapt and
>> distribute this Font Computer Program. Neither the original version nor adapted
>> version of Font Computer Program may be sold by itself, except bundled and/or
>> sold with any computer program.
>>
>> (2) If you wish to adapt this Font Computer Program, you must notify copyright
>> owners (DIP & SIPA) in writing.
>
> This makes the font postcard-ware, breaking DFSG 1: free redistribution.
Yes, it's my major concern. But after a very long wait (over two
years) to resolve this with the copyright holder, I decided to give
it up, and to ship it as non-free because of this very clause.
>> (3) No adapted version of Font Computer Program may use the Reserved Font
>> Name(s), the name(s) of the copyright owners and the author(s) of the Font
>> Computer Program must not be used to promote or advertise any adapted version,
>> except obtaining written permission from copyright owners and the author(s).
>>
>> (4) The adapted version of Font Computer Program must be released under the
>> term and condition of this license.
>>
>> DISCLAIMER
>> THE FONT COMPUTER PROGRAM AND RELATED FILES ARE PROVIDED “AS IS” AND WITHOUT
>> WARRANTY OF ANY KIND. NO GUARANTEES ARE MADE THAT THIS FONT COMPUTER PROGRAM
>> WILL WORK AS EXPECTED OR WILL BE DEVELOPED FURTHUR IN ANY SPECIFIC WAY. THERE
>> IS NO OFFER OR GUARANTEE OF TECHNICAL SUPPORT.
>
> Spelling error: further not furthur.
Can I edit the license terms/disclaimers? Is it legal to do so?
> Hope that helps,
Thanks for reviewing.
Regards,
--
Theppitak Karoonboonyanan
http://linux.thai.net/~thep/
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