On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 12:57:42 +0000 Sean B. Palmer wrote: > On Dec 30, 2007 10:32 AM, Francesco Poli <frx@firenze.linux.it> wrote: [...] > > b) license proliferation is bad > > Whilst that's very true, and I would prefer there to be far fewer > licenses than there are currently, my argument was that there simply > wasn't a license I could find that meets my (rather humble, I think!) > requirements. There's no harm in making new licenses if they meet new > and reasonable needs. Only when there are *really important* needs that are not even nearly satisfied by existing licenses. Please don't take offense for this, but I think that your needs are not so critical that they cannot be bent a little to be satisfied by an existing license. > > Wasn't GPLv3 conceived because of new demands with respect to software > patents and tivoisation and the like? Why were so few other licenses > revised in light of the same new demands, I wonder? The GNU GPL v3 is worse than the GNU GPL v2 in my opinion: it has several minor improvements over its predecessor, but implements a broken copyleft in some respects. Start here, if you are interested in the gory details: http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2007/11/msg00104.html [...] > > I think the simple license that you called "GNU All Permissive > > License" satisfies your requirements. > > If the 2-line-length constraint is so important, well, who said that > > those two lines have to be 70 column long? > > Nobody; but Guido van Rossum says they must be 79 columns :-) Is that a recommendation or a Python syntax rule? I don't remember any such rule in Python and the following test script seems to work without any complaints from the interpreter: #!/usr/bin/python # very long line, including copyright notice, permission notice, disclaimer of warranty, credits, acknowledgements, and some funny jokes... print "Hello, world!" > > Really the difference comes down to the following: > > * * * > > Copyright 2007, Sean B. Palmer, inamidst.com > Released to the public under the Example License. > > * * * > > Compared to: > > * * * > > Copyright 2007, Sean B. Palmer, inamidst.com > > Copying and distribution of this file, with or without modification, > are permitted in any medium without royalty provided the copyright > notice and this notice are preserved. > > * * * > > To most people these probably look identical, but the former is by far > the more preferable to me. It's my idiosyncrasy, and I'm gonna stick > by it! :-) Since you should place the Example License text somewhere accompanying your source code (for clarity's sake, so that recipients know their rights even in the absense of an Internet connection), I think the decision boils down to: do you prefer (A) having a short license included in all your source files or rather (B) having even shorter pointer to a separate file (e.g.: LICENSE.txt) containing your more or less short license ? [...] > Anyway, thanks for your opinion that the GNU APL is DFSG compatible! You're welcome. Once again: please remember that this is my *personal* opinion. IANAL, TINLA, IANADD, TINASOTODP. P.S.: Please do _not_ reply to my personal e-mail address, while Cc:ing the list address, as I didn't ask you to do so. Please follow the code of conduct on Debian lists: http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct Thanks. -- http://frx.netsons.org/doc/nanodocs/testing_workstation_install.html Need to read a Debian testing installation walk-through? ..................................................... Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4
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