On Mon, 2005-06-13 at 16:57 +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > humberto.massa@almg.gov.br wrote: > > >> I still do not believe that this is "discrimination against > >> persons or groups". This is an unreasonable interpretation of the > >> original meaning of DFSG.5. > >I, OTOH, do not believe that this is an unreasonable interpretation > >of DFSG 5. Why should you exclude from the Free Software process > >people that do not have the money to have proper internet access? > Because this is not discriminating, if they care they can find the > money, a sponsor or a different way to contribute. > It is discrimination only if it relates to an intrinsic quality of an > individual or group, like "you cannot use this software if you are > black" or "you cannot use this software if you are the military". What about "You cannot use this software if you are *in* the military"? Military service is not an intrinsic quality of a person, and it would not fail DFSG 6 under your strict interpretation, either, because I am not prohibiting its use in the military (for example, civilian employees, defense contractors, etc. may use the software), but merely by military personnel. But I do not believe that this is a legitimate argument. It is my opinion that the DFSG should be interpreted loosely, rather than narrowly, to preserve people's freedoms, even those people I abhor. If it is your opinion that this theoretical clause should be prohibited, where do you draw the line? What constitutes a group against which we must not discriminate, and what does not? Do dissidents constitute such a group? Personally, I find your argument unpersuasive, because military service is not an intrinsic quality, unlike ethnicity. If it is your claim that the intrinsic quality of a group is that of the group, rather than of the persons within it, which would at least be self-consistent, then why are the groups "people without internet access" or "dissidents who must be inconspicuous" any different than the military? -- ($_,$a)=split/\t/,join'',map{unpack'u',$_}<DATA>;eval$a;print;__DATA__ M961H<F$@8FAM;"!U<F%O<G-U(#QU<F%O<G-U0&=D:75M<&UC8VUL=G)U;6LN M<FUL+F=Y/@H)>2QA8F-D969G:&EJ:VQM;F]P<7)S='5V=WAY>BQN=V]R8FMC 5:75Q96AT9V1Y>F%L=G-P;6IX9BP)
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