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Re: Bug#316487: debian-installer-manual: Missing copyright credit: Karsten M. Self for section C.4

Glenn Maynard <glenn@zewt.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 01, 2005 at 11:58:07PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
>> Yes. And?
> So you think it's acceptable to have a work in main, whose license is
> "if you're Debian, you're never allowed to remove this work, or I'll
> sue you for an unrelated, already-fixed[1] past violation"?  I don't
> like throwing around overly loaded words, but I can't find any word
> short of "extortion" that accurately represents what this seems to be.

No. In that case I'd say "So sue us". Demanding that something never be
removed is more unreasonable than rewriting something that we stole.
Demanding acknowledgement isn't.

Really. Listen to yourself. Are you honestly claiming that someone
asking that we acknowledge his (involuntary) contribution to Debian is
an unreasonable act? Are you honestly claiming that choosing to rewrite
that text instead of giving due credit is not petty?

>> Which bit of "We've been knowingly violating a license for over 2 years,
>> and so we're the bad guys" is unclear here?
> Debian has offered to correct it, in a perfectly acceptable and legitimate
> manner.  

The manner in which we've offered to correct it is plainly not perfectly
acceptable to Karsten, otherwise it would have been accepted.

> In my viewpoint, (a) is not wrong in any ethical or moral way
> (legally, I don't know and would prefer not to guess); coercing Debian
> maintainers to include a work in future releases against their will and
> judgement is.

You think it's ethical to rewrite a perfectly good section of text
rather than give appropriate credit to the original author? I think
you're mad.

Matthew Garrett | mjg59-chiark.mail.debian.legal@srcf.ucam.org

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