Re: Eclipse 3.0 Running ILLEGALY on Kaffe
Brian Thomas Sniffen <firstname.lastname@example.org> writes:
> Måns Rullgård <email@example.com> writes:
>> Brian Thomas Sniffen <firstname.lastname@example.org> writes:
>>> Dalibor Topic <email@example.com> writes:
>>>>> When I instruct my computer running the Debian OS to load and run
>>>>> eclipse, the code from some JVM package and the code from the Eclipse
>>>>> package and from dozens of others are loaded into memory. The process
>>>>> on my computer is mechanical, so we should look back and see who has
>>>>> designed and created this particular combination. In this case, it
>>>>> was Debian, who took the top level Eclipse component and selected
>>>>> a particular JVM and particular support libraries to include.
>>>> That's the 'running is illegal/GPL puts restrictions on use' fallacy. :)
>>> I'm not talking about running; I'm talking about making a copy of
>>> Eclipse and a copy of Kaffe and putting them both on an end-user's
>>> system such that when I type "eclipse" I get a program made out of
>> So what? Eclipse is still only a Java program being interpreted by
>> Kaffe, which is perfectly within the limits set by the GPL.
> Not quite true. It also incorporates the GNU Classpath libraries
> which are distributed with / part of Kaffe. There clearly are
> bindings provided there. The GNU Classpath package is GPL'd, right?
GNU Classpath is nothing but an implementation of the standard Java
class library. A program using standard published interface is not a
derivative of *any* implementation, and certainly not of GNU
Classpath. Besides, the license of GNU Classpath allows it to be used
by any program, under any license, if I am not mistaken.