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Re: Trademarks: what is the line?

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On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 13:56:45 +0100 Florian Weimer wrote:

> They are not entirely unrelated.  The DFSG explicitly mentions
> mandatory renaming clauses in licenses, and deems them to be
> DFSG-free.

Yes, but is requiring a global replacing of trademarked strings and
images acceptable?

I mean: it seems that Mozilla is requiring us

* either to comply with strict modification constraints

* or to replace every and each trademarked reference to the work with
something else

First option seems unacceptable (we couldn't even patch for security
reasons before they decide to release a new version, correct me if I'm

Second option would require the Debian package maintainer to dig into
the source and play "seek & destroy" with all cases in which the work is
referenced as "Mozilla {thunderbird|firefox}" or in which the official
logo is used...
This seems a bit more than requiring a name change (per DFSG 4).

> The Mozilla trademark license seems to be rather harmless
> at that because they give permission to retain the command names.

Judging from the followups to your message, it seems that this is not
the case...  :-(

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