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Re: RPSL and DFSG-compliance - choice of venue



On Tue, Jul 27, 2004 at 08:58:39PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > Regardless of whether choice of venue is a "fee", the only people I've
> > seen who appear to believe that choice of venue is free are you, Lex
> > Spoon and Sven Luther.

> So, there is : 4 against 15, or rhougly 21 % of people who think that choice
> of venue could be a "fee". IS 80% enough to get consensus ? 

For the sake of my own understanding of people's opinions, was there a fourth?

> Also, i belive of some you listed, some consider choice of venue non-free, but
> don't consider it as a fee, if i remember well.

That's what I meant in my first paragraph--I'm among them.

> Well, i think if the question would be if the choice of venue consitutes a
> fee, and thus violate DFSG 1, or is not a fee and thus either needs a new DFSG
> entry, or violate DFSG 5 by discriminating against licence violators far away
> from the chosen venue, then you would have a much less consensual situation
> still.
> 
> BTW, mt upstream is ready to drop choice of venue from the QPLish licence, so
> i won't argue here, but i still believe that one has to be hallucinating to
> consider choice of venue a fee. The DFSG 5 problem i may admit, but choice of
> venue as fee, not.

My opinion is that choice of venue is a restriction, and that "fees" are just
one example of restrictions which "may not restrict" in DFSG#1 disallows.
Another restriction I believe would be in this class is "you may only
distribute this program on Thursday".  (I agree that calling either of these
a fee is a stretch.)

-- 
Glenn Maynard



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