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Re: reiser4 non-free?

Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:

On Tue, 11 May 2004 09:03:11 PDT, Hans Reiser said:
Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:

I pondered the whole "credits" question for a bit last night, and I realized
that (a) I could account for at least the last 75 'mkfs' commands I had caused
to run, and (b) of those 75, exactly *one* did *not* have all of its output
swallowed by 'anaconda' during a RedHat or Fedora install.....

Yes, I believe that, and that is my concern.

Unfortunately, this way lies madness - the IBM AIX install stuff *does* scroll
the copyrights for every single program as it installs.

It *sucks*.  Badly.
Random credits are the elegant answer. Displaying only the distro name at boot time is morally wrong.

I've had system upgrades that have had 12 *thousand* lines of output from
copyright notices - and the way IBM makes sure that you see them is by
outputting them to the same place as the error messages, so you can't just
redirect the notices.

And yes, at least twice I've managed to render a system unbootable because I
missed something important scrolling by....

The problem isn't "What do we do if Hans does this?".. The problem is that
Fedora Core 2 is coming in at just under 1,700 RPMs, of which some 750 are
installed in a default "workstation" install.

What happens when the *other* 749 do it too?  You end up with a tragedy
of the commons - *none* of the 750 get read, and the installer becomes

If you display a short blurb explaining what each program does and who wrote it, most users will find it interesting as they sit there boredly waiting. If the speed of install is too fast, make them randomly selected samples.

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