Re: Debian Legal summary of the X-Oz License
- To: selussos <email@example.com>
- Cc: firstname.lastname@example.org
- Subject: Re: Debian Legal summary of the X-Oz License
- From: MJ Ray <email@example.com>
- Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 01:56:49 +0000
- Message-id: <firstname.lastname@example.org>
- In-reply-to: <077101c404a8$da00aa30$2a05a8c0@Persephone>
On 2004-03-08 00:59:06 +0000 selussos <email@example.com> wrote:
However, I think the use is significantly different. The copyright
permissions granted by the X.org licence found at
http://www.x.org/Downloads_terms.html do not seem to be conditional
term. The permissions of the X-Oz licence are.
Could you please look at the X.org and X-Oz licences again and
difference? If you want to mimic the X.org licence, then will you
clause a notice in the footer instead, please? Copyright licence
are the wrong way to police trademarks.
That possibly could be your own _personal_ prejudice which is
but I think that U.S. Copyright is fairly well deployed throughout
and is internationally recognized.
It's not prejudice, but understanding. It took some time to understand
that copyright licences can easily become non-free if you try to use
them to enforce trademarks. Most of my learning curve is in the -legal
list archive. If you want to learn about it, I suggest the "Jeff
Licquia" thread (good summary from Branden in July 2002
the "TEI Guidelines" thread (recent, but a bit wordy and vague) and
the various "logo" threads.
Next, United States copyright law has the United States as its scope
and I'm not sure that anywhere else recognises exactly the same words.
If you want to look at the international agreements, the main one is
the Berne Convention. You can find the text at
others. Your copyright adviser should be able to tell you more about
Nothing that I know makes a notice mean the same as a condition of a
permission grant. Can you see why a condition of the permission grant
(such as your condition clause 4) is different to a notice in the
licence (such as the X.org phrase that you mentioned)? If you wish to
achieve the same effect as the X.org licence, will you change
condition clause 4 into a notice at the end, like the X.org licence,
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