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Re: Unicode Character Database

On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 12:11:16PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > I see no consensus one way or the other, but I did not see a single
> > person defend the license as DFSG-free as written.
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2002/debian-legal-200211/msg00305.html

...in which Sam Hartman says it might be.

> http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2002/debian-legal-200211/msg00300.html

...in which Richard Braakman says, "this license only needs some
clarification to be free."

Which logically means that until and unless appropriate clarification
has been received, it is not.

> http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2002/debian-legal-200211/msg00304.html

...in which Edmund Grimley Evans says it's free.

Okay, so:

UnicodeData.txt license DFSG-freeness consensus:

Branden Robinson	NO
Jim Penny		NO [1]
Sam Hartman		maybe
Richard Braakman	NO (needs clarification)
Edmund Grimley Evans	YES

Yes, certainly a clear consensus.

> So maybe it would be nice to have an archive that can follow threads
> across mailing lists, as well.
> I note that the posts which made the clearest statement supporting this
> license as potentially DFSG-free ("if you hold it up to the light the
> right way" ;) went unanswered by anyone who felt the file was non-free.

If I'd known that 3 "NO"s, a "YES", and a "MAYBE" would be interpreted
as consensus that the license is free, you can be sure'd I'd have been
more vigorous in my responses.

> (I guess the dissenters were otherwise occupied with beating down those
> who wished to make standards exempt from the DFSG.)  I don't know what
> other definition of consensus is possible,

What's the definition you're offering?  That if a plurality says no, a
minority says yes, and a sufficient number of others are ambivalent,
something is DFSG-free?

[1] However, he feels it should be put in main anyway.

G. Branden Robinson                |      Mob rule isn't any prettier just
Debian GNU/Linux                   |      because you call your mob a
branden@debian.org                 |      government.
http://people.debian.org/~branden/ |

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