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Re: PHPNuke license

On Fri, 2003-02-28 at 15:39, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 03:04:10PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> > Furthermore, a broad interpretation of 2c would be inconsistent with the
> > way most FSF programs actually work.  The stuff in GNU coreutils doesn't
> > generally spew a copyright notice and warranty disclaimer to standard
> > output or standard error when these programs are are run for their
> > typical uses; otherwise normal shell sessions would be awash in legal
> > notices and we'd need 100,000 lines of scrollback in our terminals just
> > so we could get some work done.
> I also think the PHP-Nuke interpretation is broader than what the GPL
> itself permits.  2c says:
>     c) If the modified program normally reads commands interactively
>     when run, you must cause it, when started running for such
>     interactive use in the most ordinary way, to print or display an
>     announcement [...]
> If a web-based CMS constitutes "interactive use" in any fashion, I would
> argue that this could only be so inasmuch as we consider clicking on links
> within the website to be part of a single interactive session, because
> otherwise you have a number of one-shot calls that are not interactive at
> all.  Furthermore, "the most ordinary way" for beginning an interactive
> session is by starting at the index page and drilling down.  So as I see
> it, the worst case is that the GPL could require you to display the
> copyright/warranty announcement on the entry page of the web app, but
> nothing more.

This seems reasonable to me.

> The PHP-Nuke author has demanded more than this, however; that's his
> prerogative, but I think this puts PHP-Nuke into the same category as
> pine where the copyright holder's exceptional interpretation has rendered
> an otherwise free license non-free.

Yes, but perhaps he could be convinced to go to the version you propose
above.  I would add my voice to that.

-Dave Turner                     Stalk Me: 617 441 0668

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