On Thu, Oct 11, 2001 at 12:53:17PM -0700, Walter Landry wrote: > > I spoke with Allonn Levy on the phone a couple of weeks ago, and he > > asked me to ask the Debian Developers to draft an Amicus Brief > > ("friend of the court") document for submission to the California > > Supreme Court, who are currently deciding whether to hear Matt's > > appeal on jurisdictional grounds. See > > <http://www.eff.org/IP/Video/DVDCCA_case/20010808_eff_pavlovich_pr.html>. > > What is the time limit on this amicus? Our goal at this point is to try to convice the California Supreme Court to take the case. They could decide to take it, or pass on it at any time (the appeal brief was due, and filed, on Sept. 14th), so time is of the essence. It's 100% my fault that we're off to such a late start, so please don't blame Allonn Levy or Matt Pavlovich. I have communicated with Allonn Levy again and he suggests narrowing our focus a bit for this phase. I'll paraphase what he told me. At this initial stage all we want to do is convince the High Court that 1) this issue is important to many people (i.e. it sets new (bad) precedent) and 2) it should expend its strained resources to render a new decision. We should start out the letter by telling the Court who Debian is, why we are impressive and important (blow our own horns) and why we are interested in this issue. Next, we begin to convince. To do that, its best not to openly attack the Court's factual findings (that suggests the case is confusing and maybe the court should pass on it). Instead, we should just pick a few issues and state them as fact (often you will find there is no need to actually say gee, the Court is totally off on this). Allonn identified a few factual issues that we may want to keep, and recommends holding off on the rest -- perhaps with an eye towards including it in a brief if the Court grants review: -------------------------- It asserts that the purpose of the Open Source movement is to "make as much material as possible available over the Internet." To the best of our knowledge, no person in the Open Source movement has ever seriously made such a claim. Open Source, as used in the popular press and by its proponents, is a software development methodology. From www.opensource.org: "The basic idea behind open source is very simple: When programmers can read, redistribute, and modify the source code for a piece of software, the software evolves. People improve it, people adapt it, people fix bugs. And this can happen at a speed that, if one is used to the slow pace of conventional software development, seems astonishing." It asserts without any specific citation that the purpose of LiViD, the Linux Video and DVD Project, was to create an "unlicensed" player. Those familiar with LiViD from its inception know that its purpose was to create ways for users of the Linux operating system to watch their DVD's on their computers, a need which had been met by various companies for the Microsoft Windows and Apple Macintosh operating system, but not, at the time for Linux. LiViD used the Open Source software methodology in an effort to develop such a player for the Linux operating system. ---and--- "Pavlovich never sought or obtained a license to use DVD technology for his LiVid project", without pausing to consider that DVD technology and CSS technology are not the same things. It is perfectly possible to create a DVD that does not use CSS. (_Cosmos_, the PBS science education series, is a set of DVD's that does not use CSS.) Furthermore, since the CSS technology is not patented, software developers have a general understanding that it is not necessary to obtain a license to implement it. ---and --- It asserts, yet again without citation, that "Pavlovich knew that DeCSS was developed by reverse engineering, which he knew was unauthorized." If Pavlovich knew any such thing, he was incorrect. Reverse engineering has long been regarded as a legitimate business practice (need legal citations). --and-- It asserts that "DeCSS facilitates pirating of DVDs," again without citation. DeCSS no more faciliatates pirating of DVDs anymore than a store-bought, big-name brand DVD player does. The digital bitstream that comprises the meaningful portion of a DVD is inherently copyable, being only a series of ones and zeroes. CSS is a means of obscuring the data -- that information which those ones and zeroes are supposed to *mean*, using the centuries-old technique of cryptography. Furthermore, the CSS algorithm is usage-neutral. It, being only a simple means of scrambling data, does not "know" whether the information is hides is being viewed, copied, or discarded. It simply obscures the data. Far more than restricting copying, CSS prevents usage of any kind, until and unless it is circumvented. This circumvention takes place everytime a consumer views a DVD movie which uses CSS -- which is most of the ones he has an opportunity to buy, rent, or borrow from a friend. -------------------------- We should also try to focus some argument on why this decision is bad for our constituency. If the new rule really is that anytime someone posts information relating to an industry, they can be sued in States wehre that Industry has a dominant presence, what does that mean for coders in other states? Other countries? Are people who volunteer for open-source projects less likely to do so if they know they can be dragged into California by any company that makes an allegation of Trade Secret violation simply because their information deals with the Computer Industry? What about people who simply report or talk about the industry - are they less likely to do so because they can be sued for defamation in any state where the industry exists? Allonn concluded that this type of discussion can be very helpful to get the Court thinking about the unintended effects of the Pavlovich decision. -- G. Branden Robinson | Kissing girls is a goodness. It is Debian GNU/Linux | a growing closer. It beats the branden@debian.org | hell out of card games. http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | -- Robert Heinlein
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