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Re: [spam subject elided] (fwd)



Dave,

I think first of all, that you must take care the language used here. If you have the knowledge
to avoid the spams, maybe you have to work on the solution, talking with DD instead "offer your
services".

El dom., 2 de dic. de 2018 a la(s) 22:10, Marvin Renich (mrvn@renich.org) escribió:
* Dave Horsfall <dave@horsfall.org> [181202 17:58]:
> Have you idiots ever thought of implementing some simple anti-spam measures?
> I have offered my services (free) many times, but thus far have been
> ignored, so I can only assume that you lot are spam-supporters.
>
> Am I right?  As it happens, I am in the middle of upgrading a Penguin box;
> all you have to do is say the word, and it'll run FreeBSD instead.

First, calling people names on this list is not acceptable behavior.

Second, you addressed the message to the list, not the list masters, so
you just called everyone on this list an idiot, even though almost no
one on this list has any direct control over the anti-spam measures in
place.  The list masters are unlikely to be subscribed to every Debian
mailing list, as they are a relatively small group that administers all
the official @lists.debian.org lists.  To find their email address, go
to https://lists.debian.org/ (and note they likely did not see any of
your previous offers of help).

Third, the list masters are professional and expert email
administrators, and they volunteer their time to run the Debian mailing
lists.  Characterizing them as idiots is not only extremely rude, but as
far from the truth as you can get.

Fourth, calling someone names is not an effective way to get them to
want to help you.

Fifth, there are substantial anti-spam measures in place, as evidenced
by the fact that extremely few spam messages actually get through.
Without any anti-spam measures, you would not be able to find the
legitimate email messages due to the quantity of spam.

Sixth, if you go to https://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/ and find the
email, you can click on the "Report as spam" button.  This is a big help
to the list masters.

Seventh, the list masters welcome suggestions for spamassassin rules
(and other changes).  There was a recent message on debian-devel@l.d.o
giving a hint how to do that, but I'm not motivated to go find it for
you.  I believe it was last month; you can search the archives.

Eighth, _why_ did you quote the spam message?  If you have enough
expertise in anti-spam measures to be offering your assistance, you
ought to know that including the spam content in a legitimate email
makes it much more difficult to train any Bayesian filters in place.

...Marvin



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