Re: can't get Iceweasel to work on my laptop
Just now I'm with a mobile and will not write long.
Of course everybody understands to backup the important files if reinstalling the whole computer? This is just a computer, not a house; to a debian system is normally not a big thing.
If the machine has got some parts, which are not working with the standard configuration, then it might befome difficult...
One more thing: Tina: have you checked at your 'firefox' that it for sure allows the net connection? Please look at 'file' column. -hv
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On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 2:47 PM EEST Scott Ferguson wrote:
>On 03/04/12 20:44, Hannu Virtanen wrote:
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Scott Ferguson <prettyfly.productions@gmail.com>
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>> -hv said:
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>>> I think that you need to get root password.
>>> You maybe better to reinstall the whole thing
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>> Scott Ferguson said:
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>> *If* Tina had the root password she wouldn't need to rebuild everything.
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>> Yes I agree. *If* Tina had the root password, she could probably fix it quite easily.�
>> But now she doesn't have it.
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>> So maybe best to reinstall everything.
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>Maybe - but without hearing from Tina we're just guessing. And a
>scenario where reinstalling "fixes things" requires a lot of guessing.
>
>Guessing that either Tina doesn't have anything to back up, or does and
>has somewhere to backup to (and knows how to perform backups).
>
>Guessing that Tina knows how to install and configure GNU/Linux on that
>laptop - and has both the time and the motivation.
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>Certainly I don't know how long she's had the laptop, or why she can't
>either get support or the root password from the system builder.
>
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>> I think that it is not configured the right way.
>
>That "appears" to be the case - though I suspect she either needs to
>configure WPA(2) and/or needs the name of her local (home) network and a
>password.
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>> And if she would reinstall everything wlan would start working.
>
>Maybe. Big maybe. If the home network requires a password that she
>doesn't currently know, then she still won't be able to connect.
>
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>> The machine seems not to be old or broken.
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>I'm guessing it's not broken. It's definitely not very old, and will
>connect to most current wireless networks.
>
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>> And while reinstalling it she could give to it such a root password, which
>> she would remember.
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>Perhaps.
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>> Somebody made a problem to give the machine away without giving
>> the root password with it.
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>Maybe. Unless the client specifies needing the root password *and*
>doesn't want a support contract - I don't give them the root password.
>
>> It is difficult to configure it without knowing the root
>> password.
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>No. Only if the user isn't in sudoers. That 'may' be the case but I'm
>not certain of it yet.
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>(If I knew how to find the root password, I wouldn't tell it here.)
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>I hear that a lot - and it's always wrong.
>
>Do you believe if you knew where the root password was (/etc/shadow) you
>should keep it a secret so that no-one knew? Seriously?
>
>What happens when you can't remember your password? Do you just
>re-install? That might be OK if you never do any actual work, but what
>about when that password is required for places where people do need
>work? What happens when the sysadmin gets hit by a car? What happens
>when the sysadmin can't remember the password? Someone with physical
>acccess to the machine uses one of four methods to become root and
>changes the root password. (or some with a nice exploit kit gains access
>and elevates their privileges, in a happy land were unicorns romp in
>chocolate meadows)
>
>If you lose your door key do you build a new house? Do you think if I
>tell you how to get into your house without a key I'll be encouraging
>burglars?
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>> -hv
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>Kind regards
>
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