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Re: can't get Iceweasel to work on my laptop



Just now I'm with a mobile and will not write long. 
Of course everybody understands to backup the important files if reinstalling the whole computer? This is just a computer, not a house; to  a debian system is normally not a big thing. 
If the machine has got some parts, which are not working with the standard configuration, then it might befome difficult... 
One more thing: Tina: have you checked at your 'firefox' that it for sure allows the net connection? Please look at 'file' column.  -hv

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 On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 2:47 PM EEST Scott Ferguson wrote:
 
 >On 03/04/12 20:44, Hannu Virtanen wrote:
 >> 
 >> 
 >> 
 >> 
 >> ----- Original Message -----
 >> From: Scott Ferguson <prettyfly.productions@gmail.com>
 >> 
 >> -hv said: 
 >> 
 >>> I think that you need to get root password.
 >>> You maybe better to reinstall the whole thing
 >> 
 >> Scott Ferguson said: 
 >> 
 >> *If* Tina had the root password she wouldn't need to rebuild everything.
 >> 
 >> -------------
 >> 
 >> Yes I agree. *If* Tina had the root password, she could probably fix it quite easily.� 
 >> But now she doesn't have it. 
 >> 
 >> So maybe best to reinstall everything. 
 >
 >Maybe - but without hearing from Tina we're just guessing. And a
 >scenario where reinstalling "fixes things" requires a lot of guessing.
 >
 >Guessing that either Tina doesn't have anything to back up, or does and
 >has somewhere to backup to (and knows how to perform backups).
 >
 >Guessing that Tina knows how to install and configure GNU/Linux on that
 >laptop - and has both the time and the motivation.
 >
 >Certainly I don't know how long she's had the laptop, or why she can't
 >either get support or the root password from the system builder.
 >
 >> 
 >> I think that it is not configured the right way. 
 >
 >That "appears" to be the case - though I suspect she either needs to
 >configure WPA(2) and/or needs the name of her local (home) network and a
 >password.
 >
 >
 >> And if she would reinstall everything wlan would start working. 
 >
 >Maybe. Big maybe. If the home network requires a password that she
 >doesn't currently know, then she still won't be able to connect.
 >
 >
 >> The machine seems not to be old or broken. 
 >
 >I'm guessing it's not broken. It's definitely not very old, and will
 >connect to most current wireless networks.
 >
 >> 
 >> And while reinstalling it she could give to it such a root password, which 
 >> she would remember. 
 >
 >Perhaps.
 >
 >> 
 >> Somebody made a problem to give the machine away without giving 
 >> the root password with it. 
 >
 >Maybe. Unless the client specifies needing the root password *and*
 >doesn't want a support contract - I don't give them the root password.
 >
 >> It is difficult to configure it without knowing the root 
 >> password. 
 >
 >No. Only if the user isn't in sudoers. That 'may' be the case but I'm
 >not certain of it yet.
 >
 >(If I knew how to find the root password, I wouldn't tell it here.)
 >
 >I hear that a lot - and it's always wrong.
 >
 >Do you believe if you knew where the root password was (/etc/shadow) you
 >should keep it a secret so that no-one knew? Seriously?
 >
 >What happens when you can't remember your password? Do you just
 >re-install? That might be OK if you never do any actual work, but what
 >about when that password is required for places where people do need
 >work? What happens when the sysadmin gets hit by a car? What happens
 >when the sysadmin can't remember the password? Someone with physical
 >acccess to the machine uses one of four methods to become root and
 >changes the root password. (or some with a nice exploit kit gains access
 >and elevates their privileges, in a happy land were unicorns romp in
 >chocolate meadows)
 >
 >If you lose your door key do you build a new house? Do you think if I
 >tell you how to get into your house without a key I'll be encouraging
 >burglars?
 >
 >
 >> 
 >> -hv
 >> 
 >> 
 >
 >
 >Kind regards
 >
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 >answers to questions about Debian:-
 >https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/collections/Scott_Ferguson/debian/
 >
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