> If you want a complete desktop environment, we can agree > on that, as it is the wm I use, too;-) > > For a quick windowmanager alone, however, I think ion the > wm of choice. i'm with you there. who could face loading all of KDE when running on batteries. yuck. such a shame eclipse is unusable in ion, or I'd use it more. It was made for 10" screens. c