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Re: Next release of manpages-l10n




Le 03/10/2020 à 20:03, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL a écrit :
Hi,

Le 03/10/2020 à 19:52, Mario Blättermann a écrit :
Hello,

Am Sa., 3. Okt. 2020 um 16:15 Uhr schrieb Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
<jpmengual@debian.org>:

Hi,

What about the release and a Debian package? I still don't see any
package in the Debian repo.

The manpages-*_4.1.0 packages are present in Sid (but not in Buster backports):
https://packages.debian.org/de/source/sid/manpages-l10n

hmmm. A Google search plus a apt-cache search manpages-l10n (or show) does not return anything. Maybe there is not binary yet? Why?

Oh I understand. I thought we would have a manpages-l10n, but no. The choice is to generate, from the source, several binaries for each language. It is a good idea to avoid peple having useless binaries as not in their language.

So now it is clear for me.



We are not yet at freeze time, but probably
we should try to release a package?


Indeed, especially to do justice to the needs of our supported Rolling
Releases (Debian Sid, Opensuse Tumbleweed, Archlinux) we should try to
release every three months, and the latest release was three months
ago.

Two weeks ago I wrote to Tobias Quathamer, asking him to tell me the
steps of a release, so that I would become able to do releases myself.
He didn't respond yet. As I already knew, actually he doesn't have the
time anymore to contribute to manpages-l10n, neither for translations
and the release management nor for maintaining the Debian packages. In
the past months, I took some administrative tasks over, like updates
from upstream packages, updating the authors list, testing the
committed .po files for formatting issues and so on. But I don't have
any Autotools skills, so I haven't tried to roll out a release yet.

This means, first we need a new release manager. Someone who's willing
and able to handle the Autotools stack, create the release tarball,
and if needed, to fix things if something fails. Second, the Debian
part needs a new package maintainer. The German translator Helge
Kreutzmann already said that he would take this over, at least as a
co-maintainer. Packages for the other distributions are actively
maintained, except for Archlinux, but I maintain some (Git-based)
unofficial packages in the Arch Linux User Repository, this is OK so
far.

That's why I call for a volunteer for this task! He would probably
need to get the »owner« state in the Salsa repo, but this shouldn't be
the problem.

hmmm. Thanks for this message, raising very important information. I am not an uploading devloper, but I would like to search for an idea. If anyone in the l10n teams has an iedea too, welcome!

ok now things are clear for me, I guess creating a new Debian package would be more confortable from a release point upstream. When such milestone is exptected? I think from this milestone, I can update the Debian source package, then submitting to Helge as uploader.



Regards



Thanks in advance,
Mario


Regards



Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
Debian Developer non uploading
Community team member
Accessibility team member
debian-l10n-french team member
President of Debian France non-profit organization
Le 30/05/2020 à 08:27, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL a écrit :
Le 29/05/2020 à 21:12, Helge Kreutzmann a écrit :
Hello Tobias,
On Sat, Apr 04, 2020 at 09:40:41PM +0200, Dr. Tobias Quathamer wrote:
Am 10.02.20 um 10:10 schrieb Mario Blättermann:
the manpages-l10n project is now almost ready for a release. The new
version 4.0 is scheduled for march 1, 2020. All commits prior to this
date will be included in the tarball.

Hi all,

the new package manpages-l10n has just been accepted into Debian
unstable. Thanks for all your work!

Thank you very much for your work and the scripts as well.

I discussed this with Mario and we think it would be a good time to
target the next version, now with some more languages (I guess Mario
has a better overview of the stats) maybe in about a week?

I just checked with the French team, this release would close also the
remaining open Debian bugs for manpages-fr.

And afterwards a Debian backport would be nice.

What would bu useful, if possible, is having a schedule of releases, to
know when will be the latest release before the freeze for Bullseye. We
still hope to finish the updating work before Bullseye. What is the
absolute deadline for it?

Regards


Of course, the other supported (and unsupported) distribution might
also use the chance to do the update, e.g. for Fedora for the very
first time.

Greetings

              Helge





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