On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 07:42:17 +0100, Justin B Rye wrote: > Last week's Release Team meeting minutes: > # The release notes for Squeeze are progressing well and a call for > # translations will be made soon. > "http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/10/msg00002.html"; > That might have been a bit optimistic. Anyway... > >> I hope they are remembering that before the call for translations > >> there needs to be a quick debian-l10n-english proofreading > >> run-through, and before *that* we need to come up with some factually > >> accurate content. > > > > An option to avoid last minute full proofreading/translation, as we > > experienced by the past for Lenny, might be to proofreading patches > > posted against release-notes. > > True; I'm hoping to have some spare time for this sort of thing in > the coming week or so. > That would be great, thanks. > >> When I look at the version on display at > >> http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/i386/release-notes/ I see > >> something so jam-packed with stale material that I wouldn't know > >> where to start reporting bugs, other than perhaps to recommend > >> throwing out chapter 2, chapter 3, much of chapter 4, chapter 5, and > >> of course appendix C. > > > > Julien Cristau from the release team is spotting issues and proposing updates. > > If you notice other issues, please don't hesitate to outline them. > > More details below in case I don't get round to proper bugreports. > [...] > Here's a quick summary of the current state of the Release Notes: > > Release Notes for Debian GNU/Linux (Squeeze) > -------------------------------------------- > Is this title still appropriate, now that Debian is more than a > Linux distro? > > CHAPTER 1 (about.dbk) > --------------------- > This part is largely impervious to obsolescence, though it does > have a line tagged "TODO". > > CHAPTER 2 (whats-new.dbk) > ------------------------- > The tables of supported architectures and package version numbers > may be automatically updatable, but the rest is stale. Even the > stuff about proposed-updates seems to be on the brink. > Architecture list and package versions should be updated now, and most of the stale bits removed. Now we just need to add content... > CHAPTER 3 (installing.dbk) > -------------------------- > The "What's new in the installation system?" section is entirely > stale. Loading firmware during installation and so on are all now > *old* features. The entry on "new languages" can be edited into > something accurate, and the compatibility warning for automated > installs probably still holds true, but all the rest needs to be > ripped out and replaced with information about, for instance, the > new X-based graphical installer. > I've asked Christian for help with this part. > CHAPTER 4 (upgrading.dbk) > ------------------------- > Much of this is still basically true, it just needs the cobwebs > wiped off - references to Linux 2.6.18 and backports.org, the stale > package list in the "minimal system upgrade" section, and so on. > There are even signs of parts having already been updated for > Squeeze. > > CHAPTER 5 (issues.dbk) > ---------------------- > This begins with a TODO tag that claims it needs to be fixed for > Lenny, so it's no surprise to find that it's full of stale items. > Apart from the recurrent item on udev and the new item about > linux-base, everything else needs to be ripped out. > Should be mostly done now. The bits about apache2 and nis/NetworkManager are probably stale still. I asked the KDE people to provide some content about the move to KDE4, and bug #599813 has some GNOME content that needs to be integrated. > CHAPTER 6 (moreinfo.dbk) > ------------------------ > A hardy perennial. > > APPENDICES > ---------- > A) another perennial, though it seems to use the wrong relative > release names. > B) the only part of this document that shows any sign of trying to > implement a sensible best-before-date system. Of course, it > still needs to be updated. > C) needs to go. > > So what do we replace it with? Well, it's not much, but here are > some of the rough notes I've accumulated over the past year or so in > my "squeezewatch" file: > > ARCHIVE > ------- > current status of backports, volatile... > release arch changes (arm*, kfreebsd-*) > section changes (e.g. kernel, video) > > LINUX 2.6.3x > ------------ > defaults for ext3 changing to data=writeback, relatime > even IDE (PATA) drives now register as /dev/sdX (use labels!) > ipv6: current status? > KernelModeSetting support (dependent on hardware) > pre-upgrade to a bpo kernel to appease udev > > DEBIAN OS > --------- > console-setup reorganised (also used by X) > dash is now default and Essential > grub2 now = grub (and grub-pc), old grub = grub-legacy > insserv defaulting to CONCURRENCY=makefile > libpam-* debconf automation > kernel-package getting more marginal > new infrastructure: udisks, policykit-1, and consolekit > xorg autoconfiguration (for most hardware) > Thanks a lot for this list. Cheers, Julien
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