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Re: [RFR] Description for package quassel



Hi Justin,

thanks a lot for your very detailed review!

Am Sonntag, 31. Januar 2010 schrieb Justin B Rye:
> Thomas Müller wrote:
> I'm not keen on this terminology of Quassel being an IRC *client*
> with a core and a *client* component - it seems unnecessarily
> confusing.  I'd suggest calling them "back-end" and "front-end"
> components; but that's far too radical for a package description
> review!
> 
Well - that's the upstream terminology - we better not change this.

> >  [...]                                  A modern, cross-platform,
> > distributed IRC client, meaning that one (or multiple) client(s) can
> > attach to and detach from this central core. [...]
> Using parentheses may seem logical, but it would be idiomatic
> English just to say "one or more clients".
> 
Lesson learned - thx.

> A knock-on effect: s/this/the/.  (Mind you, if the core is
> "central", that's not very "distributed"...)
> 
Well upstream again - I agree to you.

> >  [...]                   It's much like the popular combination of screen
> > and a text-based IRC client such as WeeChat, but graphical.
> 
> Judging by popcon scores you'd be much better off comparing irssi
> rather than weechat.
> 
WeeChat is used in the upstream description. They know weechat more than 
irssi. Lets take both ...

> So my revised boilerplate is:
> 
>   Quassel is a modern, cross-platform, distributed IRC client, meaning that
>   one or more clients can attach to and detach from the central core. It's
>   much like the popular combination of screen and a text-based IRC client
>   such as irssi, but graphical.
> 
I like it - THX

> >  .
> >  This package installs only the core component.
> 
> I wouldn't bother nitpicking this if I hadn't been invited, but
> saying that quassel-core _installs_ software makes it sound as if
> it's a contrib installer package or something.
> 
> s/installs/provides/?
> 
> > Package: quassel-client
> 
> [...]
> 
> > Recommends: quassel-core
> 
> Do I gather that in principle you can use a quassel-client* package
> without also having quassel-core installed on the same host?  It
> might be worth explaining that dependency here.  Otherwise, fine.
> 
Thats right. The idea is to have a core running on a server with 24h internet 
access - maybe in a virtual server on the internet. Users connect to the core 
from other hosts as they like. While offline the chat messages are stored in a 
database and can be viewed later.

Shall we explain it in the description?

> >  .
> >  This package installs the monolithic client. This contains both core and
> >  client and can be used like a traditional IRC client, without requiring
> > an external core.
> 
> Uh... why would anyone want that?  Does Quassel have any selling
> points apart from the one that this version leaves out?  And how
> does providing both in one package provide any benefit to Debian
> users?  It's only one "apt-get install" invocation either way.
> 

Well thats for all the people out there - like me;-) - who have no interest in 
viewing the backlog. I just want an irc client - I use the monolithic client.


> (You might also consider being kind to non-teutonophones wondering
> what "quassel" means, but that could go elsewhere in the
> documentation.)
> 

Its derived from the german word "quasseln" - blather in english


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