Re: [RFR] Please check English translation of ttf-ipafont license
Hideki Yamane wrote:
> Now I re-start with this license translation. Please try to think
> this issue with me a bit more. please and please.
Sure! If you look at the debian-l10-english archives you'll see I'm
so bored I'm reviving threads from this time last year.
> Most of your suggestion to my translation is included and you may
> can in svn repository.
> http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-fonts/packages/ttf-ipafont/debian/copyright?op=file&rev=0&sc=0
> Please check it.
I'm not a programmer; I don't have any version control systems
installed, so the review at the end is based on an HTML-to-text
conversion of that URL. I hope that's okay.
>> Is IPAfont really a "digital font program"? I was under the
>> impression that it was simply a TTF-format font family. If it is,
>> this text makes even less sense. Maybe we need to say "Software"
>> instead of "Program" throughout?
>
> THEY say it.
> In Japan, font may be out of reach about copyright law. It's gray.
> So thay say it as a program.
Do they say "Program", or do they use a Japanese word? "Software"
is almost certainly a better translation (it includes programs, but
also other forms of data such as .ttf files); and we know our
translation won't affect the font's legal status in Japan.
>>> 1.2. "Characteristic Program" means newly created Digital Font Program
>>> and any other derivative works based upon character information or adapted
>>> character information from all or any portion of Licensed Program, not
>>> an “AS IS” basis of all or any portion of Licensed Program.
>>
>> "Characteristic Program" is wrong, but I'm not sure what the correct
>> form would be. Is "characteristic" intended to mean "of or related
>> to characters"?
>
> No, I change it as "Unique Programs" (wrong?)
Ah... that makes it a bit clearer. The word we're looking for might
be "Distinct", or even "Original" (the opposite of "Derivative"). A
font design specialist might know. But since the term only means
what the definition in 1.2 says it means, it isn't essential; it
wouldn't affect the legal meaning of the license agreement if we
replaced s/Characteristic Program/Chinstrap Penguin/g!
[...]
> How about this?
>
> 2.5. The Recipient may embed the characters (only subset characters) that
> used into Digital Content and make Digital Document File under the terms and
> conditions hereby granted, and may use the Digital Document File for Copying
> or Any Other Form of use. In this case, recipient of the Digital Document
> File don't need to follow this Agreement.
That still needs some work. Is "only subset characters" some sort
of restriction on the kinds of characters that this permission
applies to? What does "that used" mean? See below.
And here's a review of the whole text:
> End-User License Agreement for IPAfont
>
> Information-technology Promotion Agency, Japan ("IPA") provides "Digital
> Font Program" named "IPAfont" (referred to hereinafter as "the Licensed
> Program") with this License Agreement ("the Agreement") and grant you
> permission to use the Licensed Program by subjecting in compliance with the
> terms of this Agreement.
Information-technology Promotion Agency, Japan ("IPA") provides the "Digital
Font Software" named "IPAfont" (referred to hereinafter as "the Licensed
Software") under this License Agreement ("the Agreement") and grant you
permission to use the Licensed Software in compliance with the
terms of this Agreement.
>
> By installing the Licensed Program on a Computer ("Computer" as defined in
> section 1), the Recipient of the Licensed Program ("the Recipient", Licensed
> Program is distributed by whether IPA or Third-Party) accepts all terms
> and conditions of this License, regardless of whether the Licensed Program
> is distributed by IPA or a third party.
By installing the Licensed Software on a Computer ("Computer" as defined in
section 1), the Recipient of the Licensed Software ("the Recipient") accepts
all terms and conditions of this License, regardless of whether the Licensed
Software is distributed by IPA or a third party.
> 1. Definitions.
> Terms in each sections are defined as follows in this Agreement.
Something like:
Terms in this Agreement are to be interpreted as defined below.
> 1.1. "Derivative Programs" means any Modification, Design Processing or
> other alternation of all or any portion of the Licensed Program, alternation
> to the tables that contain fontname and/or layout information, and
> modification, additions or deletion to all or any portion of outline and
> bitmap data of the fonts.
s/alternation/alteration/g
1.1. "Derivative Software" means any Modification, Design Processing or
other alteration of all or any portion of the Licensed Software, alteration
to the tables that contain fontname and/or layout information, and
modifications of, additions to or deletions from any portion of the outline and
bitmap data of the fonts.
(This is a bit awkward, with modifications/additions/deletions each
preferring different accompanying prepositions, but at least it's
grammatical.)
> 1.2. "Unique Programs" means newly created Digital Font Program
> and any other derivative works based upon character information or modified
> character information from all or any portion of the Licensed Program, not
> an “AS IS” basis of all or any portion of the Licensed Program.
Much of this paragraph is still baffling. "Character information or
adapted character information"? What is it talking about? What is
it _denying_ in the last clause?
1.2. "Unique Software" means newly created Digital Font Software
and any other derivative works based upon [...?] character information
from all or any portions of the Licensed Software [...?], not [some other
thing].
> 1.3. "Digital Content" means the works that provided for end-users in
> digital data format, including video content (movies and programs shown
> on a screen, such as videos and images) and works that consist of text,
> images, animations and so on.
A couple of surplus words in the first line:
1.3. "Digital Content" means works provided for end-users in
digital data format, including video content (movies and programs shown
on a screen, such as videos and images) and works that consist of text,
images, animations and so on.
> 1.4. "Digital Document File" means any PDF and similar document files that
> is created with embedded characters of the Licensed Program from any portion
> of the Licensed Program.
I don't understand the repetition.
1.4. "Digital Document File" means any PDF or similar document file that
is created with embedded characters from the Licensed Software.
> 1.5. "Modification" means adapt skeleton of font, including creating new
> character (external fonts) by splitting hand side or hand portion of a
> Chinese character and adapting any portion of character.
Something like (rearranged for syntactic convenience):
1.5. "Modification" means any adaptation to the skeleton of the font,
including adapting any portion of a character, or creating new characters
(external fonts) by [doing something or other to] a Chinese character.
> 1.6. "Design Processing" means add an effect and a certain transformation
> for fonts without adapting skelton of font, including character decoration
> (bold, italic, shadow, underline, outline, relief and any other effects)
> and any font effects on application software.
>
1.6. "Design Processing" means the addition of effects or transformations
to fonts without adapting the skeleton of the font, including character
decoration (bold, italic, shadow, underline, outline, relief and any other
effects) and any font effects on application software.
(Where does the "application software" fit in?)
> 1.7. "Computer" means hereby any computer, including network server
> computers.
1.7. "Computer" means any computer, including network server computers.
> 1.8. "Copying or Any Other Method of Use" means copying, transfer,
> distribution, rental, public transmission or public display.
This causes less crippling awkwardness later as:
1.8. "Copying (or Any Other Method of Use)" means copying, transfer,
distribution, rental, public transmission or public display.
> 2. Licensing.
>
> Subject to the terms and conditions hereof, IPA grants the Recipient
> permission to use the Licensed Program in any countries. However, IPA
> retains all rights of the Licensed Program. This Agreement does not under
> circumstances assign any rights, trademarks, trade names and service marks
> of the Licensed Program from IPA to the Recipient.
Subject to the terms and conditions below, IPA grants the Recipient
permission to use the Licensed Software in any country. However, IPA
retains all rights to the Licensed Software. This Agreement does not under
any circumstances assign any rights, trademarks, trade names or service marks
of the Licensed Software from IPA to the Recipient.
> 2.1. The Recipient may install the Licensed Program onto media and use it
> on Computers under the terms of this Agreement.
2.1. The Recipient may install the Licensed Software onto media and use it
on Computers under the terms of this Agreement.
> 2.2. The Recipient may use the Licensed Program that installed on Computers,
> on an "AS IS" basis, to produce text or any other works that using
> characters in print or as Digital Contains.
2.2. The Recipient may use the Licensed Software installed on a Computer,
on an "AS IS" basis, to produce text or any other works that use
characters in print or in Digital Content.
> 2.3. The Recipient may use the Licensed Program installed on Computers with
> added Design Processing and Modifications with editing software or
> otherwise, to produce text or any other works that using in print or as
> Digital Contains.
2.3. The Recipient may use the Licensed Software installed on Computers with
added Design Processing and Modifications with editing software or
otherwise, to produce text or any other works that use characters in print
or in Digital Content.
> 2.4. The Recipient may use printings and Digital Content for Copying or Any
> Other Form of Use for whether commercial or non-commercial purposes, in any
> media format including broadcasting, transmission, various recording-media,
> where these are created in compliance with terms and conditions of Section
> 2.2 and 2.3.
2.4. The Recipient may use print or Digital Content for Copying (or Any
Other Form of Use), whether for commercial or non-commercial purposes, in any
media format including broadcasting, transmission, or recording, where these
are created in compliance with the terms and conditions of Sections 2.2 and
2.3.
> 2.5. The Recipient may embed the characters (only subset characters) that
> used into Digital Content and make Digital Document File under the terms and
> conditions hereby granted, and may use the Digital Document File for Copying
> or Any Other Form of use. In this case, recipient of the Digital Document
> File don't need to follow this Agreement.
2.5. In the case of subset characters, the Recipient may embed the characters
into Digital Content and make Digital Document Files under the terms and
conditions granted herein, and may use the Digital Document Files for Copying
(or Any Other Form of Use). In this case, further recipients of that Digital
Document File are not bound by this Agreement.
>
> 2.6. The Recipient can redistribute the Licensed Program as named "IPAfont"
> to Third-Party without Modification, Design Processing and any other
> alternations, for whether commercial or non-commercial purposes. However,
> redistributions of the Licensed Program to Third-Party must retain this
> Agreement.
2.6. The Recipient may redistribute the Licensed Software under the name
"IPAfont" to a third party without Modification, Design Processing or any
other alterations, whether for commercial or non-commercial purposes. However,
redistributions of the Licensed Software to a third party must retain this
Agreement.
> 2.7. The Recipient may create Derivative Programs and Unique Programs for
> personal use or research use.
2.7. The Recipient may create Derivative Software and Unique Software for
personal or research use.
>
> 3. Restrictions.
>
> THE RESTRICTIONS IN THIS SECTION WILL APPLY THE LICENSING IN SECTION 2.
THE RESTRICTIONS IN THIS SECTION APPLY TO THE LICENSING IN SECTION 2.
> 3.1. The Recipient may not redistribute Derivative Programs and Unique
> Programs whether commercial or non-commercial purposes without permission
> from IPA.
3.1. The Recipient may not redistribute Derivative Software or Unique
Software whether for commercial or non-commercial purposes without permission
from IPA.
(That doesn't have to be _explicit_ permission, does it?)
> 3.2. The Recipient may not alter its name "IPAfont" if the Recipient
> redistributes IPAfont under Section 2.6 of this Agreement.
The least awkward way to say that is probably:
3.2. If redistributing IPAfont under Section 2.6 of this Agreement, the
Recipient may not alter the name "IPAfont".
> 3.3. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES WILL IPA BE LIABLE FOR ANY DERIVATIVE PROGRAMS
> AND UNIQUE PROGRAMS THAT RECIPIENT MADE.
3.3. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES WILL IPA BE LIABLE FOR ANY DERIVATIVE SOFTWARE
OR UNIQUE SOFTWARE MADE BY THE RECIPIENT.
> 3.4. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES WILL IPA BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY LOSS OF USE,
> REVENUE OR PROFIT, LOST OR DAMAGED DATA, OR OTHER COMMERCIAL OR ECONOMIC
> LOSS OR FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, STATUTORY, PUNITIVE,
> EXEMPLARY OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES WHATSOEVER RELATED TO YOUR USE OR
> RELIANCE UPON USING THE LICENSED PROGRAM, DERIVATIVE PROGRAMS AND
> UNIQUE PROGRAMS.
>
> 3.5. IPA provides no technical support and disclaims any warranty or
> liability obligations of any kind for users of the Licensed Program,
> Derivative Programs and Unique Program.
s/program/software/g, but otherwise good.
> 4. Termination.
>
> 4.1. This Agreement shall shall comes into force and effect immediately and
> remain in effect until the Recipient uninstalls the Licensed Program on all
> Computers.
>
> 4.2. Notwithstanding anything in Section 4.1 to the contrary, if the
> Recipient breach any sections herein, Recipient's right to use the Licensed
> Program will terminate immediately and without notice, and Recipient may not
> use Licensed Program, Derivative Programs and Unique Programs at all.
> In that case, all the expenses incurred and all damages recovered from such
> action shall be paid IPA from the Recipient.
4.2. Notwithstanding anything in Section 4.1 to the contrary, if the
Recipient breach any sections herein, the Recipient's right to use the Licensed
Program will terminate immediately and without notice, and the Recipient may not
use the Licensed Software, Derivative Software or Unique Software at all.
In that case, all the expenses incurred and all damages recovered from such
action shall be paid to IPA by the Recipient.
> 5. Governing Law.
>
> 5.1. This Agreement may be changed from time to time. If IPA changes this
> Agreement, Recipient may select either this Agreement or changed Agreement
> when the Licensed Program for Copying or Any Other Form of Use or
> redistributing. Matters that are not prescribed in these terms shall be
> determined in accordance with the copyright law and any other related laws.
This is the part that most needs the brackets on "Copying (or Any
Other Method of Use)". It's still horrendously awkward, but at
least it's grammatical and conveys the idea.
5.1. This Agreement may be changed from time to time. If IPA changes this
Agreement, the Recipient may select either this Agreement or the changed Agreement
for the Licensed Software for the purposes of redistribution or Copying (or Any
Other Form of Use). Matters that are not prescribed in these terms shall be
determined in accordance with copyright law and any other related laws.
> 5.2. This Agreement will be governed by and construed in accordance with
> the substantive laws of Japan.
Okay.
--
JBR with qualifications in linguistics, experience as a Debian
sysadmin, and probably no clue about this particular package
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