Re: consolidate linux-libc-dev headers
On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 at 19:30, Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Dimitri
>
> On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 06:28:13PM +0000, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote:
> > I have implemented example packaging of that as a standalone source package
> > https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/xnox/nonvirt/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-uapi/
>
> I actually just implemented something similar, but as part of the Debian
> linux packaging. It looks a bit different, sure.
Actually I cannot find this anywhere yet - is this something you only
have locally so far, or has it been pushed anywhere in a git repo,
pull request or anything?
>
> > Is this something that the debian kernel team could consider supporting /
> > building as either standalone source package, or out of src:linux directly?
>
> My first thought was actually to make bootstrapping of new architectures
> easier.
>
> > The obvious things missing from the packaging is to create all the
> > breaks/replaces/provides, and update cross-toolchain-base packages to
> > match. Also probably using symlinks rather than hard links, with
> > linux-libc-dev-cross likely depending on the native one.
>
> What do you want to do with linux-libc-dev-cross? /usr/$triplet is no
> allowed location in Debian anyway.
>
> > Separately for Ubuntu, due to the number of kernel built, I would likely
> > want to upload source package that produces linux-libc-dev as a separate
> > source package such that linux-libc-dev is actually only updated when
> > needed, rather than on every kernel upload. As there is no need to rev
> > linux-libc-dev as often as kernel uploads are done.
>
> The question here is: does it provide an advantage to have it as
> separate source? Less updates IMHO do not count, as they don't come
> with a penalty attached. But I see the downside of fixing the user
> space API to a different version then the kernel you actually ship in
> the end.
>
> Regards,
> Bastian
>
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Dimitri
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