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Bug#782058: Pegasos II: installer boots up to 'returning from prom_init'



On 04/09/2015 02:21 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> It isn't reverted.  All I've done is to add radeonfb.ko to the
> drivers that are included *in the installer*.

Yes, I understand that. I still disagree with the change.

> Neither radeon.ko nor xserver-xorg-video-radeon are included in
> the installer, so how could they possibly be used?  If you though
> those should be used in the installer, you should have told people
> that earlier.

I didn't know they weren't included. I assumed that the graphics driver
modules are important enough to be present in the installer image.

> As it is, I think that the installer should be able to work using 
> radeonfb.ko and xserver-xorg-video-fbdev, though I'm not sure
> whether radeonfb.ko will be loaded automatically.

As I have said before [1], radeonfb and xserver-xorg-video-fbdev aren't
really working, the graphics are broken. Here's how it looks on a
Powerbook G4 (with the same result on a Mac Mini G4) with radeonfb
enabled:

> http://i.imgur.com/Miw5CR1.jpg http://i.imgur.com/AfpNdx3.jpg 
> http://i.imgur.com/QBUPwRA.jpg

On 04/09/2015 02:24 PM, Milan Kupcevic wrote:
> How is that X display in debian installer on PowerPC platform
> working for you?

I never said it is. I said your suggested fix was wrong.

> Your understanding of the consequences of your changes is trully 
> stellar.

So you basically disagree about the graphical installer being broken
on all PowerPC machines with Radeon graphics is not an important
issue? OK.

> Well, I've asked, no one complained until you showed up. The
> resulting discussion spreads very interesting scent.

I complained because I care about the end product.

> Are you sure you want to know about every non-x86 issue I face on 
> daily basis?

If it involves making such important changes to the kernel
configuration, then yes. I am a porter for the m68k and sh4
architectures in Debian and also have large numbers of different
hardware platforms available to test Debian on, ranging from a
22-year-old Amiga with 68030/50 MHz to an SGI UV-1000 supercomputer,
so I can cover lots of use cases and I do lots of testing.

On 04/09/2015 08:11 PM, Milan Kupcevic wrote:
> Sorry, my reaction to personal attacks was too harsh. Will stick
> to technical issues and ignore any personal slurs from now on.

That wasn't a personal attack. I was criticizing you for requesting
such a change without apparently reading the bug report where I
elaborated why I said we should no longer use radeonfb.

I have repeated several times that this driver produces broken graphics
and I am starting to feel like an idiot having to repeat this over and
over again.

Cheers,
Adrian

> [1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=748398#106

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