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Bug#632734: Strange



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On Sat, 2011-07-16 at 09:54 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote:
> On 11/07/11 12:12 AM, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 17:29 -0400, Frank wrote:
> >> On 05/07/11 04:23 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 02:48:26PM -0400, Frank M wrote:
> >>>> I find it strange that the PAE kernel is the ONLY one which gives me
> >>>> any trouble.
> >>>> I guess it could be hardware related, but 2.6.38-1 and 2.6.38-2 have both been
> >>>> booting fine for months.
> >>>> Is there something about the PAE series that would uncover hardware faults which
> >>>> may have existed for a long time ?
> >>>
> >>> Have you tried booting those earlier versions recently?
> 
> >>
> >>     Yes I've been booting them everyday for the past month or so - the
> >> PAE series is the first time in years, literally, that I have had
> >> problems like this.
> >
> > We have provided kernel packages using PAE for a long time, previously
> > labelled as '686-bigmem'.  You can test linux-image-2.6.38-2-686-bigmem
> > to check whether this bug is related to use of PAE.  However, I think it
> > is probably due to a change between Linux 2.6.38 and 2.6.39.
> 
>     Well I **think** the bigmem kernel now is actually the PAE kernel. I
> installed the bigmem kernel and it turned out to be the troublesome PAE 
> version.

Right.  It has been renamed because it is now the only '686' flavour,
but has different hardware requirements from the old '686' flavour.  I
believe the processor in your computer should support this, but could
you confirm what model you have (look at the file /proc/cpuinfo)?

> I still don't understand why the changes created this problem for me.
> The strange thing is on multiple tries, on a  regular boot and on 
> maintenance boots, the computer will sometimes get to different points 
> before it gives up. The boots usually end up with the num lock and caps 
> lock lights flashing.

This sounds like there is some sort of hardware fault, but I can't see
why it would only occur when using PAE.  It is just possible that the
circuitry for PAE is faulty, but I think that is only a very small part
of the chip.

Please do consider the suggestions in <http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/>.

Ben.

>    I guess what I'll do is remove the PAE kernel again and continue with 
> the previous series. Long term I don't know what I'll do - I do know 
> that Ubuntu kernels have not yet been a problem. So if the working 
> kernel in my machine gets too far behind I have a choice.

-- 
Ben Hutchings
Absolutum obsoletum. (If it works, it's out of date.) - Stafford Beer

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