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Bug#555671: closed by Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> (Re: Bug#555671: linux-image-2.6.26-2-686: Conflicts: yaird (< 0.0.13) but 0.0.12-25 is to be installed)

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 01:45:05AM +0000, Ben Hutchings wrote:
On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 00:12 +0100, matthieu castet wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-11-11 at 00:14 +0100, matthieu castet wrote:
>> Package: linux-image-2.6.26-2-686
>> Severity: normal
>> Hi,
>> in lenny linux-image-2.6.26-2-686 failed because it want a version >> of yaird that doesn't exist.
> No, it *conflicts* with the old version of yaird that you have
> installed.  yaird is not included in 'lenny'; you should use
> initramfs-tools instead.
> Ben.
yaird was present on etch, why it is not present on lenny.

I don't know; it was not my decision.

No, it was the decision of a release manager, based on judgement of Max, described by same release manager as "long-term kernel team member" which was judging "with his kernel arch maintainer hat on". [1]

So waving off as "not my problem" by the kernel team seems a little odd to me. If you speak with your kernel team hat on, that is.

I don't want to install initramfs-tools because it depends on udev. And my system which is a video recorder doesn't want/need it.

Then you should stick with etch or build your own kernel without an
initramfs.  Do not ask us to support systems without udev.

I do agree: despite my disagreement with max on bug#457177 and (many) other issues of yaird, that does not change that Debian as a project has decided to only in its current stable release have decided to only ship with a single ramdisk generator - the one maintained by the Debian kernel team (or a member therof), and that ramdisk generator depends on udev.

So I agree that this bugreport as filed is inappropriate and should stay closed.

Kind regards,

 - Jonas

Maintainer of yaird

[1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=457177#78

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