Bug#380028: closed by Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> (Re: Bug#380028: mkvmlinuz requires -fno-stack-protector with gcc-4.1)
On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 03:19:25PM -0700, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 10:50:56PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 30, 2006 at 10:35:15AM -0700, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> > > That isn't true any more now than it was the first time you asserted it, and
> > > I've corrected you several times in other forums.
> >
> > Please define the definition of 'now', and i have not seen any instance of you
> > correcting me on other forums.
>
> The previous instance was in March, on debian-devel, in the "removal of
> svenl from the project" thread. Message-ID:
> <20060315185458.GS11661@alcor.net>
Sorry, no easy message-id to real message mapping handy.
>
> I apologize if you missed it, but I did send it.
Ah, so you are not saying, contrary to appareances, that the mkvmlinuz support
was recently readded to the ubuntu kernels.
> > I know that as of ubuntu/dapper, the current stable ubuntu, mkvmlinuz support
> > is not included, and *I* had to provide a upgraded mkvmlinuz so people where
> > able to install ubuntu on the pegasos and other zImage using boxes (like the
> > PReP ones and some IBM CHRPs).
>
> That may be true, and unfortunate, but that does not excuse your
> characterization of this situation as malicious. Please do not do that
> anymore.
Err, i clearly informed the ubuntu kernel folk about this problem lot of month
ago, and not only did they ignore this, but where also rude to me. Well, if
this is not malicious, it is at least careless.
> > Also, even if the patch was readded or some other solution was found, the
> > above assertion is still true, as it clearly describe what happened, and
> > unless you have a time machine, it will remain true.
>
> I have no objection to you stating the facts of what is and what was
> supported, only to you attributing malice and misrepresenting what was said
> (especially when you put quotation marks around it as if it is a quotation).
Oh well, you where not there, so you cannot judge, this is how it happened in
my perspective and i am not misrepresenting it. Just one point, the quotations
marks where there because it was a from-memory quotation, which may not be
100% percent exact, but the general idea stays. If you claim it is not true, i
would love to know the real reason the patch was removed (which i guess are
because at one point it didn't apply cleanly, and was removed unthinkingly).
If the ubuntu kernel folk had more communication with the debian kernel folk,
as it used to be in the fabbione times, it would be less of an issue, but
things being as they are ...
Now, the issue is mostly moot, you only need to upgrade mkvmlinuz to the
latest debian version in a dapper point release or upgrade, and import the
newer mkvmlinuz in your dapper+1 version, and all will be fine.
I created mkvmlinuz 23 especially in order to be able to run
mkvmlinuz-support-less kernel packages like the ubuntu one, and it has been
tested on the released dapper kernel, so it should be rather painless for you
to solve this issue, but as bugs i submit against the ubuntu kernel usually
get forgotten and only end up rotting in the BTS, without a single comment, ...
Friendly,
Sven Luther
>
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