Bug#311758: kernel-image-2.6.11-1-686-smp: network interfaces down => machine needs hard reboot

[Marc Lehmann <schmorp@schmorp.de>]

On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 04:38:34PM -0800, Jurij Smakov <jurij@wooyd.org> wrote:
> Is this problem happening with Debian kernels only,
   
As I wrote before (quite a number of times actually: it would really help
if the people acting on this bug would read the bugreport and its history,
all the required information is there and has been repeated by me a number
of times. This would have save both you and me (and others) valuable
time because you wouldn't have to wait for my answer to a question that
has been answered a number of times already), it does not happen in the
kernels I compile myself, although I am convinced that the bug is in the
upstream kernel. I don't know for sure, though, I _do_ know that all
debian kernels are buggy, and none of my own.

> with the upstream ("vanilla") kernels too? If the problem is not 
> Debian-specific, I don't see much sense in having that bug open in 
> Debian BTS, since gvpe is not packaged for Debian.

That makes no sense at all.

In general, debian maintainers follow the policy that bugs in debian
should be reported against the debian bts, regardless of wether they
are upstream or not (what else is the point of having an upstream tag
if those bugs should not be kept in the bts? after all, they _are_ bugs
in debian). I also don't quite see why packaging gvpe could make a
difference, because its not gvpe that is buggy, but the debian kernel (and
if at all, iproute causes it, not gvpe, and that is definitely packaged
within debian. It does not matter _who_ adds those entries to the arp
table, be it ip or arp).

The only effect of removing such bugs would be to lose track of those bugs
and misinform debian users by hiding valid bugs. I thinkt hat would be a
great disservice to the users. The strength of the debian bts is precisely
that it documents known bugs in debian, not that it hides that info.

I hope you understand that keeping valid bugreports has great value, far
greater than the possible pride of having a (superficially) bug-free
package. The loss for other people who are suffering from the same or
similar bugs would be big.

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