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Re: [Yaird-devel] Bug#345067: ide-geenric inclusion even if it doesn't exist.

On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 05:17:05AM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
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> On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 01:13:49 +0100
> Sven Luther <sven.luther@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> > > I still suspect that your proposed fix, Sven, can hurt in cases
> > > other than the specific one you know and care about.
> > 
> > This opinion of yours will only be acceptable if you can bring me a
> > single use case scenario where this is the case.
> > 
> > Frankly, i am sick of discussing this with you, since you fail to
> > provide any kind of valid argument, apart from you believing it may
> > hurt, while you have absolutely no idea of what you are speaking
> > about,
> I have openly admitted that I am not certain about this issue.

Well, and i am certain that it will not hurt, and more, i have given if not
proof, at least some strong arguments which you have plainly ignored, and
hiding behind your unsureness instead of fixing the issue.

> Please do not twist that around to me being certain that it _will_ hurt.

And please tell me in which twisted world you leave where having an
uninstallable kernel can in no case be equated to a world of hurt ? 

> I still have the feeling that you are looking only at the kernels you
> build yourself for official Debian packaging, Sven.

Remember, the ide-generic is only loaded because in some obscure case it was
(apparently) really needed. This is not the case on powerpc, since we have a
kernel which builds without ide-generic and works, which is proof enough that
the ide-generic module is not needed, altough it may be used, but it is not
needed. Please look in a dictionary, needed means that if you don't have it,
something breaks, but then i excuse your lack of understanding the english
language because you are no native speaker :)

> So I wait for others capable of judging this, preferrably upstream,
> Erik, (who is subscribed here).

Yeah, but seems MIA since over a month, and didn't reply since i wrote him
almost a week ago. I guess this means yaird is not maintained upstream
anymore, and it is up to you to either take over more active maintainership,
or admit you are not able to properly maintain yaird.

In any case, this clearly shows that yaird cannot anymore be a candidate for
default ramdisk generator for etch, which is sad in a way, unless someone more
competent takes over the package.

Sven Luther

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