Re: Bug#333858: Proposed improved patch for yaird
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On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:51:43 +0200
Sven Luther <sven.luther@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 11:31:28AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
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> > > What do you think?
> >
> > Well, after some thinking I actually think we would actually be
> > better off with both core and debian dir at Alioth but separate from
> > debian-kernel.
>
> Well, you do what you want, but i believe that having at least the
> debian part in the kernel svn repo alongside initrd-tools and
> initramfs-tools is a good idea.
Why?
The only win that I can see is the convenience for you (singular or
plural) to not need join another project to participate in yaird work.
Compare this with the raised noise - both that of other kernel work
irrelevant for some yaird developers, and that of yaird
internals irrelevant for devoted initramfs-tools fans. Creating another
mailinglist for yaird work means creating a project within/alongside
the kernel project - being just as inconvenient for you to join, and
confusing for new participants to understand.
> > I find the traffic on d-k overwhelming too, and a great part of it
>
> d-k kernel traffic is in no way correlated to where the archive is
> kept. Nobody forces you to read it.
You are right - having write access to the kernel SVN arhive does not
mandate listening on the channel related to that work. But what is
teamwork without a team "channel" for coordinating the work?
> > (dealing with bugreports against kernels) I am unable to do anything
> > sane about. But even if I can cope with the load I would want others
> > participating in maintaining also the Debian packaging of yaird, and
> > maybe they dislike the "marriage" or the kernel maintainers may
> > start worrying about write too many with access to the kernel, as
> > you point out also, Erik.
>
> Bah, there are already 30 or so commiters, ...
Ok, so you have a very open policy on your team resources. Great.
> > Also, I suspect the d-k team generally do not care much about
> > yaird, so
>
> No, i don't think this is right.
Ok. So should we then assume the opposite: that the majority of the 30
(?) team members find yaird relevant to keep track on?
One of the things that worries me is what the dispute last night
(european time) between you and Maximilian about importance of pushing
> > let's flip it around and invite Sven Luther (and whoever else
> > wanting to participate) into a separate yaird project at Alioth.
>
> Nope, i don't think i will be able to go into
> yet-another-alioth-project, or sorry.
Why? I honestly do not understand.
- Jonas
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