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Bug#334445: marked as done (kernel-image-2.6.12-1-686: auditd not packaged for debian, kernel headers don't support required interfaces)



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Subject: kernel-image-2.6.12-1-686: auditd not packaged for debian,
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Package: kernel-image-2.6.12-1-686
Severity: normal


on selinux mailing list, copy of message from russell coker:

On Tuesday 18 October 2005 02:39, Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov> wrote:
> > (In or out of enforcing mode).  What's the best way for me to get
> > the kernel to log the appropriate messages somewhere?
>
> In 2.6, SELinux was converted over to using the native kernel audit
> subsystem for logging its denials.  So:
> - Does your kernel have auditing enabled (CONFIG_AUDIT=y)?  If not, time
> to rebuild your kernel.

The Debian kernel binary packages are built with SE Linux enabled but auditing
disabled.  I have sent several messages to the relevant people about this
matter and had no positive response.  Several 2.6.x kernels have been
released in this state.

> - Are you running auditd?  If so, look in /var/log/audit/audit.log or
> wherever /etc/auditd.conf directs audit messages.  If not, look
> in /var/log/messages or wherever /etc/syslog.conf directs kern.warn
> messages.

auditd is not yet packaged for Debian.  The first person to volunteer gave up
because it was too difficult.  I gave it a go but found that the kernel
headers packaged with Debian did not support the interfaces needed by auditd
(this was my impression at the time and I'm going from memory - this
statement may not be entirely correct).  When I get back from AUUG2005 I'll
give it another go.

Incidentally being able to build from the standard headers is a requirement
for Debian.  All Debian packages get automatically built for architectures
other than the one used for the initial build, so the headers in question
need to be installed in all build machines.  I could hack the compile process
for i386 but not for all the rest (I tried it before in the old-selinux days
and it wasn't fun).

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-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux highfield 2.6.12-1-686 #1 Wed Jul 20 22:07:17 UTC 2005 i686
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C


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From: Horms <horms@debian.org>
To: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <lkcl@lkcl.net>,
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Subject: Re: Bug#334445: kernel-image-2.6.12-1-686: auditd not packaged for debian, kernel headers don't support required interfaces
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On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 11:22:02PM +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> Package: kernel-image-2.6.12-1-686
> Severity: normal
> 
> 
> on selinux mailing list, copy of message from russell coker:
> 
> On Tuesday 18 October 2005 02:39, Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov> wrote:
> > > (In or out of enforcing mode).  What's the best way for me to get
> > > the kernel to log the appropriate messages somewhere?
> >
> > In 2.6, SELinux was converted over to using the native kernel audit
> > subsystem for logging its denials.  So:
> > - Does your kernel have auditing enabled (CONFIG_AUDIT=y)?  If not, time
> > to rebuild your kernel.
> 
> The Debian kernel binary packages are built with SE Linux enabled but auditing
> disabled.  I have sent several messages to the relevant people about this
> matter and had no positive response.  Several 2.6.x kernels have been
> released in this state.

Hi Luke, 

This recently came up as #333834 and quite contrary to the above
statement, the response has been positive. The option has been enabled
as of 2.6.13 which is in experimental. And as soon as that or something
newer stabalises enough to go into sid, it will be there too. Hopefully
this will be real soon now. And it will without any doubt occur long
before Etch (that was asked in #333834).

http://bugs.debian.org/333834

One thing that came to mind when dealing with 333834, was who to ask on
the selinux side to ask. I thought of you, and I thought of Russell, but
I wasn't sure. In any case, other than an FYI, there didn't seem to be
a whole lot to discuss.

If you could provide a contact that would be great. The upstream mailing
list is fine, if you think that is appropriate. Or alternatively, should
I just CC you? I looked for a debian-selinux list, but couldn't find
one. I didn't look very hard, so I could have easily missed it.

I am closing this bug, as it is a duplucate of #333834.  If you would
prefer it to be oppened and merged, please feel free to send the
relevant commands to control@bugs.debian.org

-- 
Horms



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