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Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 07:42:51PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le vendredi 08 avril 2005 à 19:34 +0200, Adrian Bunk a écrit :
> > > When there are several possible interpretations, you have to pick up the
> > > more conservative one, as it's not up to us to make the interpretation,
> > > but to a court.
> > 
> > If Debian was at least consistent.
> > 
> > Why has Debian a much more liberal interpretation of MP3 patent issues 
> > than RedHat?
> Because we already know that patents on MP3 decoders are not
> enforceable. Furthermore, the holders of these patents have repeatedly

How do you know the patents aren't enforceable?

> stated they won't ask for fees on MP3 decoders.


talks about 0.75 Dollar for a decoder.

> > How do you install Debian on a harddisk behind a SCSI controller who's 
> > driver was removed from the Debian kernels due to it's firmware?
> Which SCSI controller are you talking about?

Quoting README.Debian of the Debian kernel sources:

<--  snip  -->

* QLA2XXX firmware, driver disabled:
  . drivers/scsi/qla2xxx/*_fw.c

<--  snip  -->

There are a few other SCSI controllers where even the Debian kernel 
sources still ship both the drivers and the firmware. I do not claim to 
understand the latter...

> > > Being careless in the definition of "free software" is a real disservice
> > > to users. It makes them rely on e.g. non-free documentation for everyday
> > > use.
> > >...
> > 
> > Documentation is "software"?
> Sure.

Every book in my book shelf is software?

That doesn't match how people outside of Debian use the word "software".

> > Non-free documentation is better than no documentation.
> > 
> > Non-free software has several problems, but some of them like the right 
> > to do modifications are less important for documentation, since e.g. 
> > fixes for security bugs are not an issue.
> > 
> > Removing the available documentation without an equal replacement is a 
> > real disserve for your users.
> GFDL documentation will still be available in the non-free archive.

Assuming you have an online connection and a friend told you how to 
manually edit your /etc/apt/sources.list for non-free.

But where's the documentation if you don't have an online connection but 
only the dozen binary CDs of Debian?



       "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
        of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
       "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
                                       Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed

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