Bug#272029: acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#272029: FATX filesystem support)
retitle 272029 xbox: fatx fs support
thanks
On Mon, 04 Oct 2004, Robert Millan wrote:
> [ Delayed due to MTA problems ]
>
> On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 06:53:52PM +0200, maks attems wrote:
> > On Wed, 29 Sep 2004, Robert Millan wrote:
> > > On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 05:36:30PM +0200, maks attems wrote:
> > >
> > > Have you read the bug reports? I haven't sent ANY patch for Xbox support.
> > > Why do you close bug reports without even reading them to understand what the
> > > requests are? Please read all the bug reports and fix this mess. I don't
> > > have time for BTS ping-pong games.
> >
> > it seems you didn't read the response from the debian team.
> > hey calm down.
>
> Yes. Here, I'm calmed. I read the response before and replied to it. The
> conclussion was that the maintainer team didn't want to provide this feature,
> but they can't close the bug since the request is still valid. They choosed
> to add a "wontfix" tag instead. Please read the log, it's all archived
> (bug #272029).
thanks for the pointer, debian-kernel has also the thread, i know it.
anyway ack for not willing to do ping/pong games.
> > > #272029: add xbox support to debians kernel
> > > -- this is actualy FATX filesystem support, please retitle
> > > #272063: support for Xbox partitions
> > > -- this is not fixed, please reopen
> > > #272067: support for USB devices from Xbox
> > > -- this is not fixed, please reopen
> >
> > none of those is in any consideration until any of these patches,
> > is merged upstream!
>
> Then please reopen and add wontfix tags. Note, however, that #272063 and
> #272067 (specialy #272067) are unrelated to the first one and a refusal from
> the team to fix #272029 doesn't imply a refusal to fix the latter. I would
> appreciate an explicit message about them if that is the case.
well i'm also member to the team and the policy is quite clear,
if you want to have a new feature added to the debian kernel,
you must get it included upstreams.
from that position the 3 requests are quite similar.
you could probably open 5 more wishlist bugs for xbox subsystem patches,
please understand that the kernel package has lots of bugs open,
and that for a better overview it's nicer to not have many duplicate bugs
with the the same destiny.
you will find that current debian kernel are quite similar
to vanilla kernel.org versions.
> > > FYI, I do have patches for the actual Xbox support and haven't sent them yet
> > > because some parts are conflictive and break other functionality.
> >
> > well the debian bts is not a bookmark collection of random wishes.
>
> Yes, it is. Not random though, we archive the wishes of our users in the BTS
> in the form of "wishlist bugs".
again that's great,
but i don't think that a growing collection of those makes sense.
even more if policy regarding merge of those request is quite clear
for debian kernel.
> > please get it right to the MAINTAINERS!
>
> If you look at lkml archives, you'll see how this is already being worked on.
> It's not easy, though, since Linus has been quite uncooperative with
> Xbox-related patches. I hope the same situation doesn't duplicate in Debian.
we can't replace the lkml review process,
linus is quite cool regarding ports as he initiated the first one to alpha.
just look what m32r merged. the best thing to do is to get your patches
merged by subsystem maintainers, from there they propagate.
> > it would make a _lot_ of sense to close #272029,
>
> No, you have to keep it open untill either fixed or noone interested in it.
it's not a matter of "interest", but of policy.
> > out of sympathy for your work and the possibility to keep track
> > of upstream status there i kept it open.
>
> Yes, that's one of the points why it should be kept open.
>
> Now I ask you politely to reopen these bugs and, if you consider it adequate,
> add "wontfix" and/or "upstream" tags to them. Also please retitle #272029
> to indicate it is about FATX filesystem and not Xbox support.
ok retitled, but leaved the xbox keyword.
i removed the other 2 bugs from cc, as dexcribed above.
--
maks
kernel janitor http://janitor.kernelnewbies.org/
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